To think Mumsnet doesn't hate Instagram influencers?

[jamoncrumpets]

And for prominent influencers who I will not name here for fear of them kicking off and getting the thread pulled to even hint that this might be the case is irresponsible on their part?

SO much gets discussed on MN every day. So much gets criticised. Social media influencers are a new and intriguing phenomenon - why wouldn't they be discussed here? For better or worse?

Many people have supported influencers for the way they earn money. That gets ignored. Many have politely criticised and pointed out ways it could be more ethical. This gets ignored. One or two have made comments that are personal or cross the line, these have been pounced on and discussed publicly.

The 'arguments' die down. People stop caring. Then prominent influencers go and start the whole thing up again.

Blaming MN is just lazy and irresponsible.

Anyway!!

Ads hidden in stories is definitely a pet peeve of mine - often times I find it used as a sneaky way of avoiding accountability on non-transparency

Yes,I agree with that. I think if you're to put something as an ad, it does need to be made clear that it's an ad. Burying the word ad in a wall of text isn't always easy to see.

As I said loads of people get mentioned on here she just ensures by taking her story to the papers and grazia etc and getting her husband to post about her that she is one of the most talked about. Stands to reason.
The meldrums, mother pukka have all been similarly talked about.

Anyway, so has the whole discussion/debacle ensured she and her husband and other grammars will now call out every ad explicitly. Surely that would go most of the way to stopping this thread?

See, I'm in two minds about this.On the one hand, I like the fact that people post openly about mental health now and don't keep it bottled up. It makes you (general you) feel like you're not alone. Which is a good thing.
Monetising it sits a bit more uncomfortably though.
So I mustn’t follow and igers who’ve monetized mental health, mind sharing examples (no need to name people specifically, just how it’s being done as I’m curious)

I agree, Cady. It's good to talk about mental health and open up the conversation but monetising it feels wrong, particularly when it becomes associated with some kind of 'expert' status.

Even if you are an expert it should not be sold or monetise via Insta. Metal health should be treated in safe hpc regulated frameworks. Not hawked on insta. The discussion about health should happen everywhere but that's not what is happening on insta. Instead everyone is jumping on a bandwagon, it's monetised, and vulnerable people looking for help are being taken for a ride.

The hpc really need to clamp down on SM and professionals selling their expertise in there. How can it ever be regulated? As for those without expertise in this area hosting events, that is just plain negligent and frankly appalling.

Oops I think what I said seems a little unclear.

Would someone mind sharing an example of how mental health is being monetized as I haven’t come across this yet myself

Hiding ads in stories is very sneaky. A lot of them do it. Some tag as an advert. A lot don't.

Watching instastories is also a horrendous waste of data if you're not on WiFi by the way, so I mute a lot of accounts who are prolific for adverts on stories, or if they post too much on there or are too self indulgent/rants. Ahem, Caroline Hirons.

Jen Gotch is an American IGer who is bipolar. She runs a business separately but talks about mental health issues on her personal account. I think she gets the balance right.

*ranty that should have said. I'm not a fan of the face to camera monologues.

I'm also uncomfortable with the fact though that if people do talk about their mental health though, they're immediately accused of jumping on a bandwagon as seen above.
People should be able to talk about it.

Cady a tiny proportion have the dubious honour of making onto these threads. The ones that do have generally made an unfavourable impression for reasons often worth discussion.

Cady - to clarify. My comment 're jumping I the bandwagon was not in relation to talking about mental health (that's quite a jump you made there). I was speaking in relation to those monetising it in the form of offering courses, events, goody bags etc.

Power - to be fair, your comment was pretty ambiguous and could be taken either way. If it was solely to do with jumping on a bandwagon re monetising, then fair point. It implied that IGers all talking about mental health in general though was jumping on a bandwagon.

It's interesting how, in constant defence of certain Instagrammers here, certain commenters are perpetuating the focus on them, rather than detracting from it...

Sponge - face to camera rants aren't really my thing either, which is why I tend to scroll on by those stories.

How do you fit all this defending in Cady? Work? Kids? I find it hard to keep up with these threads as they are quite fast moving and I’m busy. But you’re here defending them day, night, weekends....and this is why some think you are an instamum, or that you work for one!

Certain love island contestants from last yr are bad for.not declaring ads. I assume they are ads and they don't just love a huge variety of weight loss shakes that much

Buck, Cady hasn't been on the threads for a long time and anyway I don't think it's anyone's business how much time people spend on MN. I spend far too much time on here myself but it's my business how I divide my time between this and others things I have to do.

She’s always here when I read them. And has been on every thread I’ve dipped into. You’re right though, it is none of my business. I remember other people asking her before.

It just stood out to me that she’s very invested in this. And I am genuinely interested why. Don’t know if there has ever been an answer to that? Like I said, I miss a lot, I can't keep up with all these threads. Maybe she has answered this before.

Oh and I agree with you Jam!

And for some reason I thought you were called Jason Crumpets! WTF, I think I need my eyes testing.

I think when it comes to mental health, there's nothing wrong with posting about experiences as it's good for people to talk about their problems.
In that way, a lot of people talking about them isn't a bad thing and not jumping on a bandwagon.
I agree though if some are making money from mental health events (haven't seen instances of that, but if there has, i think that's blurring the line a bit.)
Think someone else on here asked for instances as they hadn't seen it either, if there has been though I do think there should be more clearer lines in that respect. If there is some making money from mental health issues there's something a bit uncomfortable about that.

Cady-the recent event with NB and badass would have made them some money. I imagine NB’s venture website will be bribing in some money too. I’m all for sharing but gaining money from it is shit. I’ve read through some of the stories, some seem very real, some don’t seem like mental health problems, just day to day life problems which I think trivialises it all.

Oh these people claiming mental health; don't they know their problems really are just day to day life. Forget NB, THIS & YOU is the only reason amateurs (you) need to stay well away from issues relating to memtal health.