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All men fancy younger women

477 replies

Violetshift · 28/05/2018 22:39

I think I am insanely jealous. So don’t know whether I am BU?

My partner has started tutoring a 19 year old. He is a teacher but she is resisting as she wants a grade 9.

He hasn’t said much about her. I showed him a Facebook picture of her as I know of her. He said she is prettier than that in real life.
Now he thinks this is subjective and nothing untoward. Like he thinks our daughter is pretty.

AIBU and just a jealous hag?

OP posts:
Cuckooclocks · 31/05/2018 14:01

She’s a kid. Why would you think this?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 31/05/2018 14:12

CAKE, I do agree about the 'male gaze'. I don't think women are though 'tying themselves in knots' trying to prove what's 'sexy' to men or not. Do we (women) truly care beyond what partner's may think? This is one insignificant little thread on a public platform (of which there are many, many - sorry, MNHQ!).

Regarding 'female gaze' though... I'm starting to think that it's also a 'thing' and it's meaner, more insidious than any from a male. Look at the recent Meghan Markle threads - how she looks. Whether she has gained or lost a pound... vile. Beyond vile.

GardenGeek · 31/05/2018 14:13

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 31/05/2018 14:16

Miggeldy, I don't know what's made you dyspeptic this afternoon but I don't appreciate your humphy faces.

It's possible to agree with both stances; one that attractiveness is subjective AND within that range, men tend to like an 'ideal' and that is what I think.

MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 14:18

Its not really, when they oppose each other. I mean, have whatever opinion you like, but its generally an idea to make sure it makes the slightest sens before you proffer it.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 31/05/2018 14:30

Makes sense to me. Feel free to disregard my future nonsensical opinions and I'll do the same with your patronising, arsey ones.

BlueJava · 31/05/2018 14:37

Sorry OP but unless he has past form (and let's hope not because he is still a teacher!) then YADBU.

JacintaJones · 31/05/2018 15:25

Hold up a minute.

I didn't say those attributes turned men on 'to the exclusion of all others' and I also didn't equate those attributes exclusively with youth.

So please stop putting words on to the screen for me, thanks.

CakeWars · 31/05/2018 15:31

Men get turned on by women with pretty faces, big eyes, full lips, high cheekbones, nice skin tone, good waist to hip ratio, low end of healthy BMI, rounded, high breasts, long legs and luscious hair.The end

I didn't say those attributes turned men on 'to the exclusion of all others'

I think the “the end” may have given the impression that you meant this^^ as a definitive list.

JalalHooha · 31/05/2018 15:41

Only a paedo would be attracted to her because she is young/young looking.

And younger isnt always good looking.

And not every young woman will be interested in older men. Often there is something wrong in both of them psychologically to even be considering each other.

Once youre 25+ age gaps arent as much of a problem though.

JalalHooha · 31/05/2018 15:48

Jacinta i think thats the idea media/fashion and porn industry sold you not what most men want.

There are men who prefer short women and guess what that means? Short legs.

Scientifically its symmetry of features for both sexes isnt it?

JacintaJones · 31/05/2018 16:02

'The end' was to illustrate that it is physical attributes rather than chronological years which men consider attractive and the two don't always positively correlate.

Also fwiw short women can have comparatively long legs whilst taller women can have comparative stumps.

I don't think men have a preference for tall women in particular but they do in the main like women with proprtionately longer legs.

I also didn't say they preferred big breasts but they do prefer rounded and high ones, irrespective of size.

Blaablaablaa · 31/05/2018 16:43

@jacinta that list is a Hollywood/media/porn industry idea of sexual attractiveness. As a society we've we've been brainwashed into believing that to be true. The images we are bombarded with aren't even accurate- everything is airbrushed to within an inch of its life but we're led to believe that the images we are shown are the pinicle of sexual attractiveness.

It's a sad, sad day when we've got women proclaiming it to be the case. No wonder young girls are suffering from self esteem and confidence issues. If we're are teaching our son's and daughter's this we are doing untold damage.

JacintaJones · 31/05/2018 17:11

I just intend to be honest with my children, I'm not going to deceive either them or myself to salve anybody's ego.

Certain physical attributes are almost universally considered attractive.
I hope my children aren't shallow or sufficiently insecure enough to find this information threatening.

Blaablaablaa · 31/05/2018 17:31

Riiiight good luck with that. How about not focussing on the physical or teaching them to look beyond that?

JacintaJones · 31/05/2018 18:14

Did you have trouble deciphering the meaning of my last post or are you being intentionally ironic?

Blaablaablaa · 31/05/2018 18:35

No I simply read what you'd written. However, that's the second time today we've 'mis-interpreted' your posts so maybe you need to work on making your writing clearer.

When discussing what we teach our children you said you won't lie about what men find sexually attractive to boost anyone's ego.....I took it that you meant your children ( nice attitude 🙄)

You also said you hoped they wouldn't be shallow....who is going to teach them that if you believe in the above?

JacintaJones · 31/05/2018 18:59

Only a shallow person would place an undue emphasis on theirs or others' physicality. I very much hope my children will not be shallow. Or insecure.

It takes a secure sense of self to accept the universally accepted standards of beauty and not to rail against them in futility because they may find themselves lacking.

Most people fall short of the ideal. I'll be telling my children this.

Your attractiveness to the opposite sex shouldn't provide your validation as a valuable person.

Sadly for a lot of women it serms to though, doesn't it? Certainly going by the denial throughout this thread.

What a shame.

CakeWars · 31/05/2018 19:07

I get what @jacinta is saying and I was trying to make a similar point earlier in the thread. Yes, younger women might tend be a bit more physically attractive to men, but who cares, to a point?

Blaablaablaa · 31/05/2018 19:44

I've not seen any denial in this thread just people trying explain that different people find different things sexually attractive and the 'ideal' you explain is a social construct. We've been told to find this attractive and it has nothing to do with biology.

Of course it's shallow to place so much emphasis on physicality - again, that's what many posters have been trying to point out.

I'm incredibly secure in both my physical appearance and my personality. I actually fall into the 'ideal' you describe. However, I don't expect every man to find me sexually attractive and I know for a fact that's not the case. It isn't now and it wasn't 10 years ago. Pushing the idea that there is an ideal is a big part of the problem

Blaablaablaa · 31/05/2018 19:46

And I don't care if men find younger women more attractive than older women .....but I have a huge issue with the idea that ALL men do and ALL men find the suggested ideal sexually attractive because it simply isn't true. I object to sweeping generalisations and stereotypes

TomPinch · 31/05/2018 19:47

CopONNotLinkedIn

My points is what they are. I suggest you don't read too much into them. The data suggests that men who search for teen porn aren't doing anything anormal for men. Leave them if you want, but if you do so on the basis that they're doing something you believe is abnormal then yes you do need to bear that in mind.

If there is anything else you need to say, come on and say it honestly and not by insinuation.

CakeWars

Do you know what strikes me most about this thread? The fact that we’ve managed to go on for this many pages, dissecting what men find sexually attractive. Fucking male gaze. I bet the sexist, arsholes of the male variety would just love this thread. Just my take on it obviously.

I quite agree with this, and with your subsequent post. It has become a very strange discussion indeed.

JacintaJones · 31/05/2018 20:13

Object to them then, thats your perogative.
It doesn't change the facts I'm afraid.

Blaablaablaa · 31/05/2018 20:15

You must see issues with making broad, sweeping generalisations and promoting stereotypes??

Blaablaablaa · 31/05/2018 20:22

And they aren't facts....but feel free to prove me wrong with credible, academic research