Royal wedding outfits (because they are the best bit!)

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Without being bitchy about actual physical attributes, who looked great and who didn't quite make the grade?

I thought the bride's mother's outfit was lovely. Amal Clooney's yellow dress looked fab. Pippa Middleton's dress was v pretty. I liked Victoria beckham's too. Some lovely hats here:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/gmp20106557/meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-wedding-hats/

But Eugenie and Beatrice bless them both seem to have gone for quite unflattering dresses in my personal opinion. They are young, slim, pretty, have lovely shiny hair and have an unlimited budget - how do they manage to get the dresses wrong?!

Margaret could have done what Ecward VIII did and chosen the person she loved over her royal position. She said she chose not to as she was 'mindful of the teachings of the Chuch'. I suspect the Church had little to do with it and she would not have coped as Mrs Peter Townsend living outside a palace, not being HRH or included in royal events etc. The privilages and status were too important to her.

I've slated some outfits on here! I've said outfits are ghastly, too tight, awful, boxy, unflattering, a horror etc. No one has criticised me for doing that

I think slating the outfits is fine. Commenting on a woman's size and shape isn't - beyond saying that a particular style didn't suit her. Saying 'I think X's dress was the wrong style/colour for her' is ok. 'With her boobs, she should have worn something less tight fitting' isn't. Though most comments I've seen have criticised the outfit, not the woman.

Oh, and I think it's one thing to slate people who are public figures and who have money and have chosen an outfit purposely to catch the eye, like Amal Clooney, and another thing to critique guests who were there as private individuals, who weren't necessarily looking to attract attention.

I understood that no-one refused permission for Charles to marry Camilla, but she really loved Andrew PB who was chasing after Princess Anne at the time. She set her sights on Charles to get her own back - and it worked, APB married her. Probably didn't help that Charles had just gone off with the Navy for a lengthy period - but at the time, it was supposedly what Camilla wanted.

Everyone's idea of beauty is so different. I think Meghan is beautiful. I also think Diana was very attractive, maybe beautiful. Angeline Jolie though I do not find attractive at all

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Who wanted to know who the pink dress worn by Zoe Warren was by?

It's by Dea Kudibal.. £265

I met Princess Diana on a few occasions and her photographs don’t do her justice.
She was extremely beautiful in the flesh and very tall.

@YearOfYouRemember. .. ah I thought you meant me, but I see it is a different pink dress. I charged off to buy it...

It's interesting that apparently Jilly Cooper based Rupert Campbell-Black on Andrew Parker-Bowles. Presumably mainly the behaviour/character rather than the looks (meeow, Balloon!), although Jilly does seem to have a low bar for "absolutely gorgeous."

I was thinking when reading this thread earlier that Diana was quite like the character of Taggie - academically very unsuccessful, sweet, vulnerable, good at cooking and with children and just earning pin money cooking for dinner parties, while subsidised by parents, just biding time until she gets married. But I suppose in Jilly land that's all that's available for a young girl to do, because that was the casefor the upper class in the 70s.

SirVixofVixHall - who was wearing the other pink dress, the one you like?

ll your classic beauties. With or without it, I wouldn't say Diana was. I think the word 'handsome' used in the archaic sense fit her well. She had aristocratic features, well put together and tended to. But I never found her beautiful.

I never did found her beautiful either, nor Kate and Meghan for that matter. They are/were very photogenic though.

Not sure why people said Diana wasn't royal enough. She was blue blood for sure.

Does it matter whether they're beautiful enough? I don't think so

Year- it's down to snobbery. Pure and simple. People can be very cruel.
I also don't get all this ' you should abandon your family and all you know and go and marry whom you like'.
Inreality people rarely do that. I've known several Muslim women who despite telling their families they do not want to marry the person arranged for them, still go ahead and do it. They regret it and it doesn't work.

But in several situations arranged marriages do work. My marriage to dh was arranged as were all his siblings & several of our generations family members. My parents, in laws & their relatives & most of their friends generation were arranged marriages. Arranged marriages can be very successful if both have the right expectations & not the fairytale.

Rupert Campbell-Black was based on three different men, including AP-B, according to the real queen, Queen Jilly!

Lookswise, I always imagined the young Robert Redford to be what she had in mind.

Hasanyone- that's fair enough. What I'm saying is people are asking why people go along with arranged marriages, or being denied marriage to a certain type of person. I'm saying it's not always easy to go against your family and culture and leave everything you know behind.

What I mean is Diana didn’t have a realistic expectation of an arranged marriage. A few of my cousins were the same age as Diana & a couple were younger. They had no illusions. So why did she? She thought it would be a fairytale. Life isn’t always like that. Luckily dh & I have been married for more than 20 years!

HasAnyoneGot
I'm intrigued by your comments re an arranged marriage. I'm not in the UK, I'm in Ireland. My grandmother is from a farming background and she remembers girls she knew who had arranged marriages. In one family there were 2 sisters - one had a 'love' marriage , the other a 'matchmaker marriage'.
The love match failed but the arranged marriage worked out.
Personally I'd find it difficult. What if the man they matched you with was horrible. Can you refuse ?

I think you're right has anyone got. My parents generation were the last to have arranged marriages. My parents met 4 times before their wedding. They have been married 47 years (not particularly happily but that's another story). I think in Asian arranged marriage there is no expectation of love. You know it's an arrangement for the advancement of the family and nothing else. If you fall in love afterwards that's a happy side effect. The 'hansome prince saw Cinderella and immediately in love with her' myth is a western trope. People who see princes marry pretty girls expect there to be love but they were arranged marriages in reality with no expectation above the advancement of the gene pool and the production of an heir.

Getting back to dresses, I was looking at an online article about royal wedding dresses. I much preferred Fergies to Diana’s.

Sarah looked great at the wedding also

I thought all the guests looked nice with the exception of Elton John. Is he ill?

Elton John was being particularly rude when the American preacher was... erm...preaching.