Royal wedding outfits (because they are the best bit!)

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Without being bitchy about actual physical attributes, who looked great and who didn't quite make the grade?

I thought the bride's mother's outfit was lovely. Amal Clooney's yellow dress looked fab. Pippa Middleton's dress was v pretty. I liked Victoria beckham's too. Some lovely hats here:

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But Eugenie and Beatrice bless them both seem to have gone for quite unflattering dresses in my personal opinion. They are young, slim, pretty, have lovely shiny hair and have an unlimited budget - how do they manage to get the dresses wrong?!

I just think Diana had the english rose look and made the best of herself. There were some outfits of hers, particularly slim fitting evening dresses that were just beautiful and suited her athletic build.

I don't think Beatrice has put on weight at all, the dress was just unflattering.. Eugenie just looked like a box;. That JackieO look is so hard to wear.

The Jackie O look only works on very slim women.

I agree. I think you have to be stick thin. Otherwise it's just a boxy look

I think B and E need lower cut tops. They've both got ample chests and those high necklines give them that matronly look.

I hope Eugenie gets some good guidance when it comes to her own wedding dress.

She's a pretty girl with a nice figure, but that Jackie O number was a terrible choice for her.

thecatsthecats

I genuinely don't see how she'd rank as beautiful next to your Angelina Jolies, your Elizabeth Taylors, Marilyn Monroes.

Both Marilyn Monroe and Angelina Jolie had plastic surgery. Not sure about Liz Taylor.

As far as we know, Diana was a natural.

I agree Mornings a lot of high necklines don't suit me either as I'm booby, if I buy something a few inches lower, it makes a massive difference.

But with or without plastic surgery, those women are what I'd call your classic beauties. With or without it, I wouldn't say Diana was. I think the word 'handsome' used in the archaic sense fit her well. She had aristocratic features, well put together and tended to. But I never found her beautiful.

(I am variously unphotogenic, not put together and poorly kempt - without plastic surgery - it's not a criticism of her! I just think some people have blinkers on when it comes to the Royals. The princes we're always held up as handsome, when I don't think they'd have been quite so fawned over as blokes on the street.)

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Marilyn pre-surgery. Not sure she was a natural beauty.

Diana had such a lovely face. Sadly the princes do not take after her.

Some other photos of a young Marilyn Monroe

It doesn’t look to me like she’s had anything done apart from bleached her hair or worn makeup

Whether thanks to the scalpel or not, Marilyn was beautiful. Funnily enough, I think she had a similar air of vulnerability about her to what Diana projected.

William resembled her when he was younger but has been losing his looks dramatically in recent years.

@Petalflowers no, sadly that isn’t the dress, but thank you for hunting.

I think Diana was a great timeless beauty of the age. Not to appear again anytime soon. She really had it all. She had gorgeous looks, those eyes really were the colour of that engagement ring she wore, her manner, her voice, and her capacity for genuine human warmth, and that air of vulnerability combined together into something truly mesmerising and remarkable.

She wasn't the most photographed woman in the world for nothing, or just because she was Charles' wife. In my opinion only one or two women, possibly Elizabeth Taylor at her peak or Marlene Dietrich (closer to it) could come close. And in terms of ET, I would say she didn't have that mysterious combined air of vulnerability and come hither working together at the same time, hers was a bold startling sort of beauty.

Of course it is a very great irony that such a beautiful woman couldn't command the heart of the one man she loved. Like some great greek tragedy. Like a perfect fateful drama out of shakespeare. That's why its so perfect (in a impartial sort of way)

I listened to this recording of her confronting Camilla where Camilla has the audacity to more or less say, 'its alright for me to shag your husband, because everyone loves you and you can have any man you want. What more do you want' Sort of acknowledging her beauty and revelling in having the power to thwart its effect in the place (PC) it wants expression the most.

I think William still looks great, he's just missing a bit of hair, as is typical for men. I still would.

I thought Meghan was a very beautiful bride, but Eugenie has her own stuff going on and I'm interested to see her day.

Agree about Beatrice channelling Queen Victoria. I don't know how I missed it before!

Of course it is a very great irony that such a beautiful woman couldn't command the heart of the one man she loved

Not sure that she only ever loved Charles.

I wonder if they would've had a chance if Camilla hadn't been around and he'd really fallen in love with her? Maybe she would've been happy, or maybe she would've got bored eventually.

I’m not sure she loved Charlie’s either (and vice versa). I always thought her one true love was the heart surgeon.

Yes I think it's a bit of a stretch to say Charles was the one man she loved. I'd say she 'loved' him initially as an idea of being married to a prince in a naive teenager way, and maybe later as the father of her children but she met him about 5 times before her marriage and things went pretty rapidly downhill after the wedding. Of course he never loved her either.

No, I don't think she ever loved Charles. There was nothing between them, they hardly knew each other. I think she was in love with the fantasy of the fairytale, becoming a princess, the thrill of leaving her very sheltered childhood behind and being someone of note. There may also have been a touch of delight at marrying her sister's ex-boyfriend...who knows? I don't think she was attracted to him, but she may have hoped they'd grow to love each other eventually. They never did, the chasm grew even wider after the wedding when they realised they had nothing in common and were a terrible match.

I always think it's odd when people say ' how can Charles love Camilla over Diana when Diana was so beautiful' as if looks alone are enough to sustain a relationship. Obviously they deliberately destroyed a young girl with the complicity of the Royals and The Spencers but theirs has proven to be a lasting love, based on compatibility. It doesn't matter how beautiful Diana was compared to Camilla.

I think she genuinely loved Charles, as a 19 year old would love the prince in a fairytale. They'd only met a dozen times before they were married, so I would think she didn't know him well enough to love him in an adult manner. She should have been guided by the adults around her, but sadly there were none who really cared about her interests.

I think she was in love with him when they married but quickly became disillusioned.

It's really quite frightening the way aristocratic girls were raised in the late 20th century - very little education with their chief ambition to secure a rich husband who could take care of them. So not much different to how it was 100 or 200 years previously.

Charles wanted to marry Camila before he married Diana Burgess told he couldn't.
Camilla then met her first husband and they got married.
Prince Charles was under immense pressure to find a suitable bride.
As he was well I to his 30s and there weren't any eligible princesses around he had to look elsewhere.
He was under pressure to find someone 'pure' without baggage and that's when Diana was suggested.
He couldn't marry whoever he wanted, in the not so distant past Meghan Markle would not have been allowed to marry into the royal family.
Prince Andrew was told he couldn't marry Koo Stark.
Diana was a figurehead chosen to bare the heir to the throne.
Charles loved Camilla.
Princess Diana's grandmother was instrumental in pushing her granddaughter forward for the role. At the time several people slated Diana stating she wasn't royal enough.
As time passes Diana behaved in a very dubious manner, she was involved in the breakdown of Will Carling's marriage. Of course he was to blame but her constant phone calls to his home night and day didn't help either.
The other married man whose name escapes me too, his wife reported nuisance calls to the police and that's how the whole affair came to light when rediscovered it was Diana constantly phoning him.
Not the actions of an innocent woman there.

That's one thing I don't like about Diana - despite being so hurt that there was another woman in her marriage she had no compunction in being the OW in relation to, apparently, Will Carling and Oliver Hoare.
If you have felt the hurt and pain when your husband plays away, why help inflict that on other women ?

I agree with thecatsthecats , Diana was a handsome woman, but not a beauty in the manner of Elizabeth Taylor etc. She had a pretty substantial nose for starters. However, her height, athletic frame, lovely smile, and large eyes made her very attractive. Kitty Spencer has some aspects of Diana but is more conventionally beautiful.
I didn’t think Charles wanted to marry Camilla before she married Parker Bowles ? I think they should have married then, but why didn’t they ? One or both of them must have not wanted it, as surely she would have been a reasonable match ?