To wonder what you think about people with disabilities buying sex

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Here is a link: tlc-trust.org.uk

I personally was at first 😲😲😲 but now am thinking 🤔...maybe this is a good thing?? AIBU?

It re-enforces the idea that all men have a right to sex, and that women exist to be used for sex.

Does not matter if the person paying is disabled or not.

Exactly 53rdWay Strangely I don't remember it being mentioned as a legitimate career choice at any point in my education.

Went to DS' sixth form open day recently to discuss A-level options and potential related degrees, and I must say looking back, they failed to mention prostitution as a possible career path in amongst all the Electrical Engineering, Computer Science, Medicine and Economics degree options. You'd have thought considering the potential pay scales they'd mentioned it, especially as they claim to have a robust equal opportunites policy. I must write and complain for the glaring omission. Totally irresponsible of them!

King,

So I assumed you did discuss dustbin person, Amazon shelf stacker, cleaning person at this careers evening?

Those of you who have cleaners - do you think the cleaners love cleaning your dirty bathrooms? Or are they mostly foreigners with poor English who do it because they can't be a hotshot lawyer/ doctor/HR manager like you? Or maybe they do it because they haven't married a rich man.

Of course some do it because they enjoy it - and it is a good business. Just like some sex workers do. Some don't.

Those of you who do AIBUs about lazy, workshy, insolvent, cocklodging husbands or partners who are paying too much to the ex-wife get told to LTB, ( but make sure you get the moeny!) - it's always about a trade and a power dynamic.

And if you are a SAHM to rich man - what do you think you have traded?

Sex workers are often very good at what they do. They often choose it. Don't judge other women for what they do.

No ones judging the women for doing it.

At all.

Infertility is NOT a medical condition, especially due to age. It means you cannot become pregnant; you are not sick

That isn’t always the case. Infertility can be a medical condition.

What you're nearly all missing her is the fundamental point that people with disabilities have the legal and moral right to access the same services as able bodies people. In this instance we just happen to be talking about sex

But nobody has a legal and moral right to pay for a prostitute. Not in this country anyway. Everybody has a legal and moral right to consensual, not-for-profit sex. Many people (both disabled and able bodied) are able to get regular consensual, not for profit sex. Some people (both disabled and not) are not able to achieve this, for a variety of reasons. That is sad if sex is something they really want. But it doesn't then make prostitution okay.

Larygrylls

Answer my first question. How is any of that equivalent to buying the use of a womans vagina because you fancy a fuck?

Oh good point, Larry. All those schoolkids in part-time, min-wage retail and cleaning and care jobs, and yet the newspapers get all in a flap about the schoolkids being shopped around and sold for sex. Clearly we should be encouraging those girls to think of their jobs as fulfilling employment opportunities, the transferable skills from which will surely stand them in good stead for their future careers in office administration.

Should have phrased that as 'everybody has the legal and moral right to want and hope for sex' really. Or that everybody has the same 'level'of 'right' regardless of ability, appearance or health. The 'right' doesn't extend to getting it by coercion.

Just had a look at the website which is fascinating reading. Apparently a young woman with mild learning difficulties phoned requested 'a shag' for her 21st birthday. I want to say that it's terrible and exploitative but having looked at the site and in particular read the profiles of the sex workers, it looks like a good idea, well executed.

“Sex workers are often very good at what they do. They often choose it. Don't judge other women for what they do.”

Nobody. Nobody is judging the women

Wow, this is depressing

How many of the posters who think it’s fine would do it themselves?

Zero, I’m sure.

Being raped for money is not a job

painted you saying that SAHMs are the same as prostituted women is so ignorant and breathtakingly offensive I don’t know where to start.

I don’t imagine cleaners love their job in particular but they aren’t getting raped, beaten or trafficked into it. They don’t have a higher rate of childhood sexual abuse. They aren’t expected to perform painful and dangerous acts in the course of their work. The act of cleaning is very different to the act of non-consensual sex and as I don’t believe you can buy consent, that’s what I consider prostitution to be. Very few women choose it and the factors that influence their choice aren’t likely to be positive ones. I question how freely that choice is ever made.

Prostitution is not the same as shelf sacking or other unpleasant jobs, it really isn’t and it’s so disingenuous to try to argue that it is in any way equivalent.

The argument that SAHMs are trading sex for their lifestyle is an abhorrent and misogynistic one. Wives don’t exist just as sex-providers to husbands. Sex isn’t something we offer up in order to get a nice life, it’s something most couples share and ideally in a mutually respectful and equal relationship. Let’s not race to the bottom and say that just because some marriages may be exploitative and disrespectful that this makes exploiting and disrespecting women by prostituting them is also ok. Misogyny is a problem we should be aiming to stamp out, not use it to justify ongoing and continued misogyny.

Yes the women are being judged. They are being judged for selling something that someone esle does not believe should be sold.
They are "selling" their vaginas - and "no-one should be able to sell the use of their vagina" - why not?? It's woman's own vagina - surely her right to do what she wants with it. Don't assume she is powerless because she chooses to get £500 for it rather than dinner and theatre tickets.

(reference recent thread about men paying for dinner etc on first date)

You assume she has no choice - because no-one else would want to do such a degrading thing. Women judge other women sex-workers harshly because it threatens them.

53rd,

Silly post, really.

I am not defending exploitation or underage sex, no more than I believe those foreign farm workers being imprisoned and forced to work is equivalent to a willing farm hand.

But willing seller, willing buyer (of either sex), not sure it is much different to a cleaning person; I assure you very few of them are excited about going to work every morning to clean up your shit.

What kind of fucking idiot thinks sex is a 'service' to be purchased?

Of course some do it because they enjoy it - and it is a good business. Just like some sex workers do. Some don't.

How many do, do you think? Looking at the sex trade globally, for, well, obvious reasons, what kind of percentage do you think are in the trade purely because they enjoy it?

Do you think there are enough prostitutes in that category to meet the global demand?

No mam, disabled or not, has the right to buy a woman for sex. Women are people, not a set of holes for a man to pay to put his dick in.

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My friend is an physiotherapist in a care home abroad which houses predominantly disabled males, many victims of accidents. They offer intimate therapy from registered sex workers. The state or family pay for it depending on the funding.

What the fuck? Is this true? 'intimate therapy?'

What about disabled women? How come they don't feel entitled to sex?

And where do you draw the line? What about men with rubbish social skills who are too shy to get a girlfriend? Are they entitled to be allocated someone to stick their penis into as well?

But willing seller, willing buyer (of either sex), not sure it is much different to a cleaning person; I assure you very few of them are excited about going to work every morning to clean up your shit.

That’s pretty offensive to cleaners who work hard providing a legal service.

Plenty of people aren’t excited about the work they do. That doesn’t make them prostitutes.

I don’t have a cleaner, Larry. I have however been one. But do tell me more about what women in low-paid jobs think about their work and their bodies!

Just once I would love posters to engage with the morality of people buying sex from someone who wouldn't touch them normally. I can't imagine feeling turned on having sex with someone I knew didn't fancy me.

But No, as usual it's all about women being "judgemental". When no-one is judging prostitutes.

So predictable.

People not being ‘excited’ to go to work is not the same as prostitution. I don’t love going to work every day but I would love it a lot less if my work involved getting raped.

How many prostitutes are getting £500 a time, Painted? Do you think that’s really a representative figure?

It's all a trade>

You may see it as offensive if I ask what has been traded when a women is financially supported by a man. You may then say "But it's about love" - until he wants to leave, or she does, and then she wants, (or he does), half of everything. Ask a divorce lawyer - it is always about the money. It is never, "We were in love, now we are not so let's leave with what we came in to the relationship with". It's about payment for "years of my life" - really???

Sorry but the hypocrisy of superior women who judge other women is unpalatable. But I know AIBU well enough to know my view is unpopular and unlikely to gain much support.

Yes, I am judging the men who buy prostitutes 100%, not the prostitutes themselves.