To wonder what you think about people with disabilities buying sex

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Here is a link: tlc-trust.org.uk

I personally was at first 😲😲😲 but now am thinking 🤔...maybe this is a good thing?? AIBU?

*There is a long history of conscripting young men into the armed services.

Even today, many countries have a year of compulsory service and, if there is a war during that time....well, as risky as it gets*

I hate these bullshit posts. What’s the point? What are you trying to say? That it’s okay for women to sell their bodies to men because men have it bad too? I’ve heard a man who I thought was a friend of mine have attitudes like this and I just can’t understand why it’s an acceptable response. “Oh what about the men”

Captain,

Are you being wilfully obtuse?

I accept some arguments that people are making but to pretend you cannot comprehend a perfectly simple analogy is boring.

I do need to research if it is indeed the case that most prostitution is due to coercion. If that is indeed the case, I need to reconsider.

I still think the solution is to protect the prostitutes with robust laws (as they did with factory workers who also used to be exploited) than to van it. Bodily autonomy is not only a right for those who have your approval as to what they do with their bodies.

I don’t know if it’s me who is being wilfully obtuse, to be honest...

I am not that partial to paying poor people lots of money to tell me how wonderful I look as they primp my hair for hours at a time either

Do you know any real women? Do we all sit being primped and praised for hours by the poor? I tend to get my hair cut slightly less often than I should, pay the hairdresser her (extortionate) going rate, she’s brisk and efficient and we exchange a few pleasantries. Rather the same as my husband does when he gets his done.

Am I doing it wrong? Should I be seated on a silk divan being fed grapes by cowering slaves whilst choirs praise me?
Am I not womaning correctly, Larry, do enlighten me?

It's illegal, and unethical for me to say to my dentist "I'll pay you double if you'll do the extraction bare handed without your face mask"

I mean, people on here get miffed if you try shoes on without socks!

How can it be fine for a man to pay a woman to put his penis inside her? To rub his bare hands and genitals against hers? How is it that a dentist shouldn't touch my mouth in the process of doing her job without her gloves and eye protection, but it's fine for a man to do that to a prostituted woman?

Or should dentists be allowed to do perform work without gloves? Should I be able to pay a surgeon to perform an operation without a face screen? Should I be able to pay a miner more money to go and do his job without a hard hat? Tell the builder that he's not to wear shoes in the house and to knock down the wall without his steel toecap boots? Is it fine to be able to pay people to break H&S legislation like that?

Because I'd say no. I'd say H&S is there to keep people as safe as possible, and that means that some jobs just aren't tenable. We don't send kids up chimneys any more, we don't have train guards leaning out of open doors because we realised it just wasn't worth the risk of accident to do so.

I am not that partial to paying poor people lots of money to tell me how wonderful I look as they primp my hair for hours at a time either

WHATTT 😂😂😂

And my lack of comprehension is due to the fact that hairdressing and prostitution are not analogous in any way. It was a very poor analogy but one you repeated at length throughout the thread, larry. Also, if you haven’t bothered to look into the causes of women entering prostitution before your contributions to this thread then I’m pretty horrified that you made those arguments from a place of total ignorance.

Bodily autonomy is not only a right for those who have your approval as to what they do with their bodies.

People have a right to have sex with other people. Once money is exchanged that is now a business, and you have to follow the rules of the country, and that includes not paying people to do things that are excessively dangerous. Prostitution is one of those things that is excessively dangerous.

Disturbingly,

But it is legal.

Some people have such a vested interest in prostitution that debate is useless. The “Belle de Jour” glamorizers, the “Women do it too” brigade and the “Well, men work on oil rigs” MRA.

No point, people. No point st all.

Oh, and the “But it’s legal” apologists.

We must not stand between a man and his inalienable right to get his rocks off.

I think the same thing about a non disabled person buying sex. none of my business.

Captain: larry why do you think cleaning is equivalent to sex? It’s such a bizarre comparison.

Quentin: The SAHM argument is so revealing.

Conveniently minimises all the work SAHMs do. Deliberately or subconsciously, it shows how the people who use that argument view the work of running a house. It's invisible to them. It's all about the working man's entitlement

What all these examples share are that they are considered women's work, fit only for women, and far, far beneath anything men like larry would ever consider debasing themselves enough to engage in. Just another distasteful job women are expected to do and not complain about to the men.

Incidentally, one of my current jobs involves cleaning sick, changing sick adults' nappies, wiping bums and genitals, changing bins and collecting soiled clothing for the wash. Parts of it can be pretty vile, but I don't dread going to work at all. Because the people make it, and these tasks have to be done by someone. I don't consider it all beneath me, no matter how gross it can be sometimes. If I did, that would mean I consider myself above a certain class of people destined to do that kind of work. Which I don't, because I'm not an utter arsehole.

MRA absolutely. And they will get around their heinous views by dodging direct questions which require uncomfortable truths and admissions.

I sometimes wonder if porn is to blame; I can only assume you would be ignorant to the reality of prostitution by having an uninformed, glamorised and naive view of sex in general if it’s even possible for you to believe that the majority of prostitutes are healthy independent women doing their job of their own free will.

The same as I would think about anyone buying sex....

I wonder if any of you judges are single,disabled and unable to meet people but have a healthy sex drive?

Bertrand

“We must not stand between a man and his inalienable right to get his rocks off”

Don’t forget that not only can we jot stand in the way, the poor men can’t be expected to take care of their own sexual needs, it’s up to women to be their for them, otherwise we’re limiting their possibility for happiness in life

80% of human trafficking victims are female. 50% are minors
Roughly 90% of women would like to leave
60-75% of women in the trade have been raped. Up to 95% have been physically sexually assaulted
68% have PTSD to the same degree as war zone and torture survivors
Prostitution at the local level feeds international trafficking and crime.

2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/38790.htm

Yeah they’re all just happy hookers Larry, nothing to see here. It’s just like mining, or being a commercial diver

KarmaStar if that’s your situation then satisfy yourself or find a mutual partner to indulge with. Your “healthy sex drive” is not a call for the need of sex as a commodity to be bought and sold at the expense of others to exist.

Please give me an example of a disability that leaves someone completely incapable of meeting anybody at all, yet they still possess the ability to communicate their need for sex?

Bowl those statistics are horrific :(

Plenty of single people have ‘healthy sex drives’ and no partner. Sort yourself out. There’s no right to sex. Would you like to be given to someone else for their sexual gratification?

No one has a 'right' or an entitlement to sex.

This is just a pimp site.

Btw, iirc there are more disabled women than men, why is it the disabled men who seem to have the larger voice in this?

I’m pretty sure I’ve read that 80 ish percent of sex workers in London are foreign - trying to find a reliable source for the statistic.

The percentage who are independent contractor, totally ok with it, no direct coercion from violence, no indirect pressure from drugs etc is tiny.

The percentage who are coerced and trafficked is huge.