Stop my daughter going to Childminder

[Olu123]

Please help me. My four year old dd has been going to a childminder four days a week after school for a year now. She’s a single mum with another dd similar age to mine and of course other kids she childminds.
Twice I pick dd up, there’s a man in the house. He doesn’t hide it, has been by the door both times. First time It happened I didn’t think too much of it, second time I get worried as he in fact tells me dd had a nice day etc
Childminder offers no explanation just chats about what they have been up to in the day.
I Picked dd up yesterday (cm has only my dd and hers on Tuesdays no other kids) and asking her about her day, she says cm took her to the park, just out of curiosity I ask if anyone else was there and she says yes (mentions the mans name) was there, they met him at the park but he didn’t come to the house today.
Am I right to be horrified? I suspect new bf or maybe not so new as my dd’S vocabulary has just gone up so maybe he’s been around and I never asked and she never said.
Are cms allowed to have other adults around while working?
I’m sure the guy doesn’t live there but I’m so Scared now That im almost sick and don’t think I can let her go there anymore . Also worried and wonder if iabu as dd loves it there, wants to go and will ask if she’s going to cm even on the weekend. loves her dd as well.
Sorry for the rambling but so confused right now.

My very wonderful childminder has various people around when my dds are there - including her adult children and partner. One of the reasons I chose a childminder is that I felt a home setting would be best for my dds. They get to be part of the family on the days they are there!

She also takes them to groups and to meet up with people she knows (generally to do an activity with them and their kids). Unless you are specifically concerned about this individual then I think you are being a bit unreasonable. I'm sure your childminder won't leave him alone with the children.

My sister was a childminder and when I was visiting while she minded she always made a point of introducing me (and anyone else in the house if need be) to parents who collected.

Of course people are allowed to be there, as long as the children aren't left alone with them. Family etc visiting my home went on as normal when I was a childminder. I only declared who was living there but did often mention if I was going to have visitors, but not always

Or she could just be a grown up and ask who is this guy

Op sounds very immature tbh

It certainly isn’t normal to feel scared to the point of feeling sick because the childminder had a visitor in her house!

.....my point exactly Mamabear

Just ask who he is??

Students on work placements, volunteers and occasional visitors As set out above, Ofsted takes responsibility for undertaking DBS checks on those who are living or working on domestic premises, including childminding and childcare on domestic premises. Therefore, Ofsted will need to obtain an enhanced DBS check on students or volunteers working with childminders and other childcare providers on domestic premises who are to have regular, unsupervised contact with children.

There are no provisions in the relevant legislation which state that the legal requirement only applies to placements of a certain length. There is no definition of ‘regular contact’ in this legislation, so Ofsted will take a common sense approach to deciding what is ‘regular’. For example, a student could have regular contact with children during the course of a short placement. Where a student on a work placement is likely to have regular contact with children, Ofsted will undertake a DBS check on that student. Where a student does not have regular contact with children (for example if they are only attending the placement as a ‘one-off’ arrangement) Ofsted will not require a DBS check. In such cases, the childminder or childcare provider must ensure that the student or volunteer is never left in unsupervised contact with children.

We apply the same principles in deciding whether or not a person is a regular visitor to the household. For example, when deciding whether Ofsted requires a DBS check on a regular visitor, there is a difference between a friend of a childminder’s son who occasionally sleeps over, and an overseas student who is living in the house for several months. We will decide whether a DBS check is required on a regular visitor, taking account of how frequently, and for how long, the person is visiting the house.

Luisa27 Seeing as you never actually been a childminder I agree your talking nonsense

“OP sounds very immature”???

Good grief this is priceless....

and adult sons live with her and have been DBS checked

No the adults sons didn’t live there. I have no idea if they had been checked. I trusted the CMer enough that she would know who needed checked and did it.

How do you know what “I’ve been” ffs

The adult daughters didn’t live there either....

Registered childminder here.

It does sound like an extreme reaction but asking her who it is would be a good start. We are allowed to have other people in the house but anyone that lives there must be dbs checked. There needs to be an element of trust and if you trust your cm to keep your child safe I’m sure she trusts this man. I’m also pretty sure she won’t be leaving any children alone with him (as that’s not allowed) and she will be looking out for the children. Obviously this depends on whether you trust her too and I’m guessing you do if you are using her services.

Hmmmm - yes well, excuse me if I don’t take any of your knowledge on board Zibodoo

There could be issues here. The park no issues .

Anyone who lives at the house should be dbs checked.

He should not be unsupervised with the children . Same as teens friends visiting, parents collecting.

But yes ask her ? If she is a Lp she is allowed to to date , however you are quite entitled to ask .

When I registered, although I never did the job in the end, I was told people that lived in the house needed a dbs and also people who were regular visitors. That was in 2008.

Out of interest Looney - genuine question - would you have an unknown ( to the parents) chap in your house regularly without introducing him to them and/ or explaining briefly who he was?

yes well, excuse me if I don’t take any of your knowledge on board Zibodoo

Oh don’t worry, no-one imagined you would be that sensible.

Luisa27 Because if you had been you wouldn’t be so wrong on this

That’s my understanding too @Noquonterly

I don't think its a big deal (my childminder had a husband and other male relatives visited occasionally).

I do think she should have introduced you though.

@Noqonterfy it was like that when I started too but it has changed and don’t necessarily need a dbs unless they’re living with you now.

Well you can’t all be right 😂

I've posted the Ofsted regulations, they're quite clear