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Transgender stuff - only on Mumsnet - am I weird?!

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obliviousperson · 09/05/2018 22:34

The only time I ever read or heard about transgender stuff is on Mumsnet.

I live in London, I travel a lot. As far as I know I know no one who has changed gender. I have never had a transgender issue that has affected me. Not in changing rooms or swimming pools or anywhere.

It is a bigger deal on this website than in my real life. No one I know has had any issues.

Is it hype? I don't understand!!!!

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bubblegumbubbles · 09/05/2018 22:36

Never met or experienced it either. I also live in London

category12 · 09/05/2018 22:37

I know several trans people and a couple of my teenager's schoolmates are trans or genderfluid. And I don't live in London and don't travel a lot.

bubblegumbubbles · 09/05/2018 22:37

Ooh scratch that - lily madigan I do know of. But actually only learned of LM via MN then people IRL began talking about labours appointment

AnneLovesGilbert · 09/05/2018 22:37

People don’t talk about it much in “real life” because they’re scared to voice any objections to it.

It’s creeping in at my work. Gender neutral toilets on the way exclusively to make trans people happy. Obsession with the use of pronouns. Add in the “trans women are women” stuff all over Facebook.

You might be in London but you’re not looking hard if you don’t see it.

JenBarber · 09/05/2018 22:38

I live quite a sheltered and introverted life and know four transgender people and met quite a few others.

Live in a small country town and see a few people walking about wearing clothing of the opposite gender. And that's just the obvious ones. Must be loads I don't realise/notice.

I think it's becoming really common. Maybe it always was but social media has made us more aware of it.

SlowlyShrinking · 09/05/2018 22:40

I know several people who work in social care /health care and they’ve all come across trans people in the course of their work. Also a friend of a friend’s pre teen daughter is now identifying as a transboy. I don’t think I know any trans people in person though.

Helmetbymidnight · 09/05/2018 22:40

Recently, I’ve seen calls for artists: theatre, dance, writing, open to applications from anyone who identifies as a woman.

Some loos gender neutral, again, only recently.

JoyTheUnicorn · 09/05/2018 22:41

There are transgender issues going on that may well have an impact on you in the future, and younger generations of women.
It's only really seen on MN because most places ban any talk of these trans issues for fear of being harassed by trans rights activists, who regularly threaten violence.
I live in a place where I don't come across homelessness, but I know it's still going on.

Titsywoo · 09/05/2018 22:42

Do you have teenagers? I do so I've heard a fair bit about it - it seems to be a pretty big thing to be honest.

SquirmOfEels · 09/05/2018 22:43

I don't think people are scared, I think they just don't mind.

I'm in London. It's a diverse and vibrant community.

It's not been a topic of conversation that I've picked up on around me,

Except once on the bus, but I think that loud person was doing it deliberately. But I did learn a lot about the waiting times, expected duration if hospital stay, and subsequent undercarriage care. Fascinating.

GothMummy · 09/05/2018 22:43

I know two teenagers who now say they are transgender and a friend's husband left her to live as a woman. I live in a provincial town, nowhere near London.

PositivelyPERF · 09/05/2018 22:43

I live in NI and it’s really common here. Women are afraid to speak out about because of the threat of verbal and physical abuse from the TRAs and their handmaidens. The changes will happen in a sly way and you’ll only realise when it’s too late and you’ve lost your rights, as a woman, to privacy, dignity and the right to male free spaces. Mumsnet is one of the few places where we have a right to talk about it and we had to fight like fuck for that. Gender critical women are blocked on Facebook and Twitter for giving unpopular views, in other words refusing to go along with the fantasy that people can change sex.

NewYearNewMe18 · 09/05/2018 22:43

No one care IRL - its very much live and let live (except down the pub where the rabid right wing old men froth about it). Only on MN are toys lobbed out of the pram. I know several trans people, F to M and M to F and one undecided Demi F (not actually sure what that is, I think it's a sort of no binary) and gender fluid person.

Mixed gender toilets have been in my place of work for years. Amazingly people manage to shut cubicle doors.

Titsywoo · 09/05/2018 22:44

Also my neighbour works in construction and was paid £26k to make all the toilets gender neutral (this was at the Home Office).

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obliviousperson · 09/05/2018 22:44

No teenagers, yunger children.

I have seen or heard NOTHING apart from on here.

Neither has partner and he works in media! Nothing!

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Mousefunky · 09/05/2018 22:44

I teach and have two adult transgender students this year. Not in London but am in a big city.

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obliviousperson · 09/05/2018 22:44

*younger

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SimonBridges · 09/05/2018 22:45

Most of channel four’s output last night was about gender issues.
Most certainly not just here.

Bufferingkisses · 09/05/2018 22:45

My dcs (mainstream, state) school has several children transitioning. A very long way from London.

I agree, people who are aware don't discuss. I have become a bit "hyperaware" so I know several people on one side of the fence or the other but none of us have ever alluded to, never mind discussed it.

Ethelswith · 09/05/2018 22:45

I have teens.

One faced with a form that asked people to list 'male, female, other, prefer not to say' said they were missing the box for 'I identify as an attack helicopter'

FirstShinyRobe · 09/05/2018 22:47

It's bizzare isn't it? That such a small population can get the government close to muddying the definition of woman to mean something other than being of the sex that bear young.

TERFragetteCity · 09/05/2018 22:47

I encountered my first trans male to female in the early 90s. in Kent.

Fruitcorner123 · 09/05/2018 22:48

I am similar in that I have no friends or relatives but our local secondary school gender neutral toilets. I know some parents who are not happy about this.

FirstShinyRobe · 09/05/2018 22:48

IT'S NOT ABOUT TOILETS

NoSquirrels · 09/05/2018 22:49

Most people want to be tolerant and nice.

Most people are in favour if everyone “living their best life”.

Most people don’t realise the law could change so that the legal definition of “woman” or “man” will be open to anyone who self-identifies that way, rather than based on biological sex or a legal & medical process of gender reassignment.

Most people don’t realise women won’t get consulted on this.

Most people don’t believe people can change their sex.

Most people haven’t signed the petition.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118

THAT’S why it’s a big deal on MN. Because “in real life” most people haven’t even thought about the implications even if they’ve heard of the law change proposals.