To think cleaner could have flushed the loo?

[Furiousaboutinstarubbish]

Is this an unreasonable expectation? Ds 7 had done a poo without me realising and not flushed. Isn't that just a given when you're cleaning the bathroom?

Kids aren’t perfect

No they’re not. It’s the OPs attitude towards the cleaner that stinks more than the original issue.

I'm a cleaner. Yes, I probably would have flushed it away but I also believe that a cleaner should be able to expect at a minimum that they won't have to be face to face with anyone's faeces. Particularly in a family home

Smeddum
Your right. It's not the 'toilet surprise' that's an issue its the op attitude.
I think that's whats kept this thread going for so long.

Can't believe your kid is incapable of flushing a toilet tbh.

@allthingsred I agree. Especially the £30 tax free! As if that’s somehow reason to accept anything she’s faced with.

Has anyone mentioned Syria yet?

Seriously think she needs an actual problem to realise this isn't a bit deal. I would love it if my only problem I had in the world is that a cleaner quite rightly didn't flush a dump. Very self absorbed. Imagine having to clean yourself the horror.

I think we need to set up a just giving for this poor woman who is obviously traumatised by the heinous events of this morning.
Perhaps to fund a personal flusher of dumps.

Any sane sensible person when faced with an un flushed loo would just flush the bloody thing - I can't believe how precious and ridiculous people are being about this, all she has to do is push the flush button / handle, the OP wasn't expecting her to fish it out and take it home in her handbag!!

Not speaking for the masses her but i assume shes riled people by actually thinking it's a big enough deal to announce to the world. And she assumes that paying someone 30quid cash means they have to deal with her child's bodily functions Instead of her merely explaining to get child that dumps need flushing......

Brutus, I spent a few years teaching in the middle east, and the repercussions of teaching kids not to respect cleaning staff are horrific. Things like spilling something on the floor and leaving it for the cleaner, ringing a bell for the cleaner to get them something. It turns the kids into spoilt brats, and many of the children grew up to believe that it was acceptable to be deliberately rude to the staff, or to show off by ordering them around.
The OP should be teaching her child that having a cleaner is a privilege that comes when you work hard, and that the cleaner is the parents' cleaner and isn't there to clean up after a child. Also that the cleaner might earn less than the parents but that they are just as valuable and that no one should have to clean up the shit of another person.

YANBU. Of course the cleaner should have closed the lid and flushed. Job done.

You’ve made it clear that this is a one off and you normally check loos before the cleaner arrives. Hardly akin to slavery!

The responses on here are extraordinary.

@Smeddum

Why wouldn’t they be pulled up on it because one time the cleaner flushed so she could do her job? OP is clearly aware her son sometimes doesn’t do it so I assume the addresses it with him?

@DianaPrincessOfThemyscira not according to her posts she doesn’t. It’s very much “oh but he’s a child. The cleaner should do as she’s told”.

So OP saw a poo in the toilet and left it for the cleaner to flush?blimey.

@smeddum I very much got that too. As an ex housekeeping manager and cleaner this attitude makes me want to do a dump then launch it at her

The cleaner should not have to flush the loo for anyone. Repulsive idea.

MissReginaPhilange

Lovely.

But she pays her 30 quid tax free. She thinks this ensures the cleaner has to do this
Also posting it for the whole world to see thinking that it's a huge problem.is also irritating the life out of me.
What would one do without ones cleaner/slave

Kids aren’t perfect? Really? Awwwww. Let’s make excuses for them, then, and not drum the requirements of basic hygiene and decency into them.

I woukdnt actually of course do tjat was just trying to explain how irate its got me

This thread is batshit. Children are taught to flush the loo; sometimes they forget. Children forget to do lots of things. It's normal from time to time. It's not bad parenting, it's just a kid being absentminded. It's normal. Not every time, but once in a while.

The cleaner is paid to clean the loo. She closes the lid, flushes said turd and completes the task. Life goes on. Nobody died.

The end.

@MissReginaPhilange I agree (obviously I realised you weren’t serious about throwing shit at anyone )

It’s the people who treat those they deem beneath them or subservient to them that have no issue with it. And that speaks volumes.

Having worked in hospitality and housekeeping myself, in hotels and such, they aren’t the people that are particularly popular with staff either!

Is this really such a big deal that people are still going on a bout it.

We are cleaners and own a mid-sized cleaning business with 13 staff, we also charge a premium rate if that matters and staff are paid highly as a result of our premium business model (if that is a factor at all!)

We would never (and do never) allow clients to disrespect our staff in any way to the point where on the rare occasions this has happened we have terminated services.

As for a poo down a loo, I really just think clients are too busy to notice this on occasion and we all just shut the lid and flush before cleaning without further ado.

When I was the only full-time cleaner in the business I came across this, not often but it happens, I never even registered it as an issue. I've always felt treasured by the families I cleaned for and the cleaners on our team always report feeling this way. We do not mind flushing an occasional poo for them. It's not routine, it's not deliberate, it's just life.

Some of us love cleaning and made it our business, it might be tough, hard physical work and for a business owner a lot of mental juggling too, but at the end of it, we have good full-time jobs where we feel appreciated and one poo doesn't get to spoil our week. If anything can spoil our week it will not be a simple poo.

Your quite right. If i had a cleaner (not that I would as I actually do my cleaning and dump flushing myself....not through lack of finances out of choice shock horror) I certainly wouldn't treat them this way merely because i paid them a whole 30quid . I think her attitude stinks worse than said toilet probably does