To wish the EU would throw us a bone so we can cancel Brexit

[Crikeyisunderused]

They don't want us to leave. We don't want to leave. So what could Macron'n'Merkel offer us so we can say "go on, we'll stay together for the sake of the kids".

not letting every Tom, Dick & Harriet have a say over everything What you mean like a referendum?

But the majority DO want to leave. The majority where @mummabearfoyrbabybears ? Which countries in this United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are you talking about?

The time for bone throwing has past, if they had done so in the first place when DC asked the result of the referendum might have been very different.
I think that many who voted leave are angry at the EU for not listening and being too authoritarian, and this view has been reinforced in the past year.
I wish we were staying but it was the will of the majority and I must admit if there was another vote now i would be very tempted to vote leave this time!

If you can't see Brexit is going to be a bloody disaster after the government has spent 2 years contradicting itself you are beyond help.

Its gone from 350 million a week for the NHS to "I don't mind decades of hardship".

No other country is leaving the EU. They can all see how mad Brexit is.

and this view has been reinforced in the past

What about this past year has reinforced the view muttmad?

I don't think the anti EU feeling would have gone away. It might have got worse.

I don't think so. Beyond low-level grumbling and headlines about EU immigrants getting all the jobs/benefits/houses, I had never seen much anti-EU feeling in this country before the referendum

Quite. Polls taken before the referendum show that the EU was not an issue for most voters. The NHS, education, housing etc have always been the issues that most voters care about. The referendum was purely for the purposes of the Tory party and their internal wrangles and to stop Tory voters from voting UKIP even though they had never got enough votes to win even a single seat.

And the government continues to govern in the interests of the Tory party rather than the interests of the country.

Lest we forget. Greenland left Europe. The 'divorce' over one issue, fishing rights, lasted six years.

www.politico.eu/article/greenland-exit-warning-to-britain-brexit-eu-referendum-europe-vote-news-denmark/

The impact assessment report states the country will be worse off. Leave voting areas being the worst affected

Elendon

Dissembling nonsense from you - the eu national referendum was undertaken on a national basis.

Little snoring cannot cede from the union just because it’s 500 inhabitants voted to stay. It doesn’t work like that as you well know

"The time to 'throw us a bone' was before the referendum, which they signally failed to do"
So you don't count any of the many concessions and opt-outs we got given that nobody else did then?

It doesn’t work like that as you well know

That’s not what Elendon was saying. The fact is that 2 nations voted to leave and 2 voted to remain, so there is a clear divide. That the biggest country in the 4 gets to make all the decisions isn’t a surprise, nor is it new.
But complete dismissal of the border issue in NI is ignorance at best. Arrogance at worst. Like it’s nothing.

Smeddum

No - that is what she was saying. you cannot change the parameters of how the vote breaks down to suit your revisionist narrative: the nation voted to leave

I see all the usual suspects have broken free from the not the Brexit arms thread.

What’s wrong - fed up with the overpowering silence in that echo chamber?

@Heyduggeesflipflop you really think you know it all don’t you? The way you speak to other posters as if you’re the font of all knowledge is laughable.

Mostly because you come off sounding bitter, arrogant and ill informed. With an overblown sense of self importance.

The United Kingdom as a whole voted to Leave, because the majority was stupid enough to fall for the same shite that got the Tories into power (not forgetting that alliance with a party that has less morals than UKIP and that’s saying something).

So you can belittle, sneer and talk down to anyone you please. It doesn’t make you right.

One of the 'complaints' about 'the EU' was/is about excessive spending.
The Scottish Parliament building went 10 times 'overspend' on just that one project.
It will take tens of years to 'unpick' the huge numbers of agreements between the UK and the EU, and the cost to fund all the lawyers necessary will wipe out any financial 'gain' from having left.
Immigration, apart from a few areas the UK is largely populated with immigrants from over the last couple of thousand years.

The majority of the voting public Elendon. What's hard to understand?. Everyone walked to their polling station and voted with a cross. The majority (the greater percentage of those voting) put a cross next to leave. Get it? Democracy! Clever stuff that

Smeddum - we are leaving - don’t like it you don’t have to join us

@Heyduggeesflipflop why am I not surprised you’re one of “those” people. Anti immigration and skating awful close to “well if you don’t like it you don’t have to live here”.

I don’t have to like it, you’re right. And I certainly don’t need to agree with views like yours. But telling me to leave my own country (which isn’t yours btw)? With folk like you having a voice is it any wonder this entire nation is a shitshow and an international embarrassment? Not in the fucking slightest.

Hey we frequenters of the Arms get about

I see nobody has addressed the '40 years and still no plan ' issue, perhaps someone on here can come up with a reason why a plan has never materialised ? couldn't be because nobody has one could it ?

What is it that you are not getting that this is a union of four countries? @mummabearfoyrbabybears

Dismiss the wishes of two of those countries if you want but as others have said this is arrogant and dismissive.

don’t like it you don’t have to join us Does this mean we can have independent countries within England, mainly cities? London has already posited the idea of being a separate autonomous state like Luxembourg.

Be careful what you wish for.

Elendon - no it means stop moaning and put your money where your mouth is - go live in Brussels if you feel so strongly

Smeddum - I’m not skating close to saying it, I am saying it

@Heyduggeesflipflop so to clarify, you’re telling me I should leave the country I’ve lived in all my life because I disagree with your ridiculous views? Hahahahaha. Aye ok then hen, whatever you reckon.

How do you propose a British citizen goes to live in the EU post Brexit? Since you and your wee pals saw fit to take that option away?

@Elendon ah but London is ENGLAND so deserves to be heard according to some of the more loudmouth posters on here.

Smeddum - 17.4 million people agree with my ridiculous views