To wish the EU would throw us a bone so we can cancel Brexit

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They don't want us to leave. We don't want to leave. So what could Macron'n'Merkel offer us so we can say "go on, we'll stay together for the sake of the kids".

Here is my idea for fruit and vegetable picking:

Ask millenials to become pickers for a season - Pay them a subsidised £15 an hour and provide free accommodation. That way the food get's picked, millenials get some real work experience whilst earning £500 a week.

Job's a good un :)

It will all be robots, though.

Meanwhile, spare a thought for New Zealand and their kiwi fruit.

Kiwi crisis: New Zealand changes visa rules to save bumper crop of national fruit
Labour shortage prompts government to amend laws, allowing holidaymakers to work in orchards in last-ditch attempt to avoid fruit rotting on vines

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/09/kiwi-crisis-new-zealand-changes-visa-rules-to-save-bumper-crop-of-national-fruit

How do you do that in areas where there is low unemployment?

GhostofFrankGrimes A shortage of available housing has put pressure on house prices, making them unaffordable, If we build million more houses( which would take decades) where would we grow crops etc to feed all these people ?

Although 'social engineering' is not necessarily the best idea but an element of it, such that everyone over the age of say 17 is expected to be in employment in some form. Scrap benefits but (maybe councils) employ people to do the boring , mundane jobs to do some of the work that OUGHT to be done in a clean 'civilised' society. Street cleaning, road repairs, jobs that have been privatised and are now being 'abandoned' because the private firms want profit. The pay should of course be a decent living wage.
No work, no pay, get tough.
Why should 'the state' give you anything if you are not prepared to contribute to the wider society?
Getting cheap 'casual labour' from other countries with a poor economy to do the hard, unpleasant work such as crop picking, NO, get unskilled workers from the UK but PAY THEM PROPERLY. Yes food prices would go up and it would need policing such that 'farmers' do not abuse the system.
Sorry it feels like a manifesto rant!

What the fuck are you on about A4710Rider - Millenials are 22-37, so an average age of 29. Most 29 year olds already have jobs. And in many cases, mortgages and children.

Net migration fell last year

Wrong. Net migration from within the EU fell. Overall, migration was plus 244,000

Nope - net migration is falling (still positive but falling). From Bloomberg, 22nd Feb 2018:

Net migration to the UK has fallen by 92 000 since the June 2016 Brexit referendum as European Union nationals arrive in fewer numbers.

Total arrivals outnumbered departures by 244 000 in the 12 months through September, down from 273 000 a year earlier and a peak 336 000 in the 12 months before the vote to quit the EU, the Office for National Statistics said on Thursday.

Given that Brexit will make the country poorer how do you expect wages to rise

There is an excellent chance that the UK could become far more successful out of the EU (Ask Mr Dyson), therefore, wages could easily rise.

Total arrivals outnumbered departures by 244 000

That's exactly what I said ha ha

User, over60% of food is imported. Houses are continuing to built due to governments help to buy scheme. How many people can afford 300k houses I don’t know.

Sorry I have to correct this - net migration DID fall in the year to June 2017

We still had 250,000 more people than the year before - what's your point?

We cannot regain our sovereignty because we never lost it in the first place.

Yes. And EU regulations must be passed by Parliament to become enforceable.

It's amazing what DM fake news are still doing.

Lweji “What”. What do you mean what, if they did they must have whispered it behind gritted teeth, I never read, saw, received anything from the leaders of European countries asking for the U.K. to stay, perhaps we were looking in different places

Mr Dyson? The guy who moved British jobs to Malaysia?

Go read the impact assessment reports.

Allreadygone at it too? Where will we get teachers, doctors, nurses, and every other professional we need from, if instead of A'levels and university, 17 year olds are sent to labour in fields and sweep roads?
Oh hang on, we won't need teachers, since the children will be out there labouring, too.
Talk about a race to the bottom - let's ignore the industrial revolution and go back to being an undeveloped country - wohoo!!!

The robots are coming. Ten years time, unskilled menial roles won't be a problem. For the next decade though, big problem. And no, I'm not sending my 16 YO out to do it - she'll be in education until about then, since the world is becoming increasingly specialised.

Mr Dyson? The guy who moved British jobs to Malaysia

Do you mean the 65 jobs in 2003?

GhostofFrankGrimes Perhaps if there was millions of empty houses the price would come down, ( the builders would have stopped building ) but come on, there are more people coming in to the country than houses are being built, so you want to get rid of the farmers m, make us totally dependent on imported food, at least the fruit farmers won’t have a Labour shortage then.

if they did they must have whispered it behind gritted teeth, I never read, saw, received anything from the leaders of European countries asking for the U.K. to stay, perhaps we were looking in different places

Clearly! Or you didn't want to see it.
Before and after the referendum.
The whole EU was up in arms.

Did you expect Merkel to knock on your door, perhaps?

People kept saying net migration was going up - I had to point out that is not in fact true. Sorry for being pedantic

So even though it's still 250,000 more than last year you don't think it's going up??

We are already dependent on foreign food. Fruit has been rotting in fields due to the drop in migration and people returning home.

Houses are treated as commodities hence the price rises. Thank the council house sell off for that.

While the idea of robots to do some of the 'unskilled' jobs is fine in a 'technological' way it is a disaster in terms of human interactions.
For decent mental health a human needs to feel some degree of achievement for a day's activities. Paying people to 'idle' causes immense problems. I am not suggesting that 'unskilled' work be deliberately harsh for the sake of it but it would be interesting to get an idea if the costs due to crime might be somewhere near paying underemployed to do real work. An upside to this would be that in the case of street maintenance type activity those doing it would take 'possession' of their work and far less likely to vandalise/abuse.
Think of it in terms of compulsory military service.

Have the posters complaining about immigration and borders got a solution for NI yet?