To wish the EU would throw us a bone so we can cancel Brexit

[Crikeyisunderused]

They don't want us to leave. We don't want to leave. So what could Macron'n'Merkel offer us so we can say "go on, we'll stay together for the sake of the kids".

Some people have no option when it comes to family and their place of work Battleax

Oh I wasn’t being pointed in that way.

It was fairy’s “interesting”!grasp of statistics and sampling that I was taking the piss out of

I wouldn't give my hard earned money to any tradesman who turned up reading the Sun.

Not working for you? Have a whine

Happy enough to have control of those countries though eh? Wouldn’t it be interesting to see who really was whining if Scotland and Northern Ireland left the UK.

Why did DC and the House of Commons give the referendum vote to public if they hadn’t worked out a solution for the Irish border ? It is not up to the public to work out these things for the government, that’s why they are in the position they are in, The vote paper just said in or out the EU and not out and how would you sort out the Irish border. I wish DC could be asked what he was going to do about it

Elendon That’s being very judgemental, they might just read the sports pages and Striker, why do we have to pigeonhole everyone nowadays ?

I was merely stating a fact

It is judgemental because I remember the Sun on the phone hacking scandal and Hillsborough. My son has just informed me that the Daily Mail is worse because they have a political agenda, which the Sun doesn't have. I agree with him.

Sorry @Hey - I felt a bit hysterical, and then had to finish a tennis match
But it is great that you’re educating us all - grazie mille 🤗

Why did DC and the House of Commons give the referendum vote to public if they hadn’t worked out a solution for the Irish border ? It is not up to the public to work out these things for the government, that’s why they are in the position they are in
If only the government supporters of Brexit had had a serious and viable plan to present. I don't think even they thought the vote would go for Brexit. DC certainly didn't.

Allreadygone@

so how come Cameron got no deal then? (re. Brussels doesn't make the rules), or more to the point, how comes he had to go a beggin in the first place?

I voted Remain, I still think we are making a huge mistake but the Referendum was clear ...well marginally clear.

I don't think we can possibly remain now....we've made ourselves look right tits in the eyes of the world. The only winners in this will be the powerful who have overriding reasons for wanting Brexit.

I think history will see it as a massive mistake and the everyday population will be paying for that mistake for generations.

Just my opinion.

Somervile:

Brexit trumps the GFA , it's more important

Felicity - you seem to think it is us against the Eu. You know there are other countries in the Eu too?

@Elendon
My son has just informed me that the Daily Mail is worse because they have a political agenda, which the Sun doesn't have. I agree with him.

All newspapers (and news broadcasts) have political agendas!

how comes he had to go a beggin in the first place?

Because he couldn't stand up to the swivel-eyed loons on his party's right who wouldn't stop mithering him about it.

Brexit trumps the GFA , it's more important
I'd like to hear more about that, Felicity. Can you expand?

Delores:

history will see Brexit as a glorious reassertion of the UK State as an independent nation

Brexit trumps the GFA , it's more important

No, the GFA is an international peace treaty that ended decades of de facto civil war.

jugglin:

large swathes of folk in those countries would love their nations to leave the EU as well

Jaxhog. It’s goes to show how far out of touch the government were if they didn’t even consider a leave vote and it’s implicatons, dereliction of duty springs to mind, I was surprised the leave vote wasn’t bigger when talking to my numerous customers

Tom@

so if we can set our own rules then why did Cameron have to go to the EU in the first place to beg for renegotiation? you know it's a crock

sure, the UK as a whole is more important than regional situations

@Delores - I agree with you, some really interesting points

@GardenGeek - I disagree with you on some fundamental points - but I do understand your reasoning - if that makes any sense at all?

Brexit trumps the GFA , it's more important

Breathtaking arrogance and stupidity combined in one sentence.

history will see Brexit as a glorious reassertion of the UK State as an independent nation

Oh look, another one! No, history will see Brexit as being a ridiculous and irresponsible mistake, causing incalculable and irrevocable damage.

so if we can set our own rules then why did Cameron have to go to the EU in the first place to beg for renegotiation?

I refer you to my first answer. Also, the UK, despite being perfectly able to e.g. set limits and requirements for immigration, had chosen for years not to. Which was not the EU's doing nor fault.

sure, the UK as a whole is more important than regional situations
Are you referring here to the GFA? Can you explain how it is a 'regional situation' rather than an international treaty?

sure, the GFA only affects parts of NI, not the whole of the UK
'international' ,you mean because Bill Clinton turned up , yeah right.....