To wish the EU would throw us a bone so we can cancel Brexit

[Crikeyisunderused]

They don't want us to leave. We don't want to leave. So what could Macron'n'Merkel offer us so we can say "go on, we'll stay together for the sake of the kids".

I. Don’t. Want. To. Be. Governed. From. A. Foreign. Nation

Nor do I. You sound foreign to me @Heyduggeesflipflop

Windrush people weren't EU migrants, and of course this story was only brought to light by Remainers worried that their cheap source of labour was going to dry up post -Brexit

however ,these buffoons have actually got rid of liberal Rudd in place of far more right wing Javid

Brexit domino effect wont start with Ireland!

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-ireland-population-majority-remain-eu-poll-border-solution-theresa-may-latest-a8340941.html

Leaving the EU will be the decision we ever made. You just don't realise it yet.

Smeddum

You are clearly not a student of history - almost every major war has been fought over who rules whom

The integrity of the nation state is important. I refer you to my hippy trippy comment aimed at one of your equally deranged fellow travellers

Irons man

Dimwit? We have outsourced law and trade to the eu. What’s next, defence? How much piecemeal autonomy has to be passed to the eu before you wake from your ignorant state?

I'd say Ireland is roughly a 50/50 when it comes to a ref on EU

You are clearly not a student of history - almost every major war has been fought over who rules whom

well lets hope there isn't war given your beloved Tories have cut defence spending.

people will adapt to a soft border, most people only really think about who's going to be next pop idol

I don’t even know where to start with this level of ignorance of not so distant history.

@heyduggee I do find it quite funny that you’re posting either insults or soundbites. Which tells me you haven’t a clue what you voted for, or why, but believed the propaganda spoon fed to you by UKIP and the leave campaign. It would be funny if it hadn’t had such serious consequences for those of us who actually understand the repercussions of such ridiculous prejudice.

I'd say Ireland is roughly a 50/50 when it comes to a ref on EU

Wrong again, 92% support EU membership.

I'd say Ireland is roughly a 50/50 when it comes to a ref on EU

I’m surprised you know anything about Ireland since you dismissed a border as “no big deal”

We have outsourced law and trade to the eu

It is not outsourced.

smed:

when you say the 'natives aren't willing to do these jobs' it just actually explains why people voted brexit, ie. to fight back against the middle class who actually want the Brits to work for £2/hr - would you do that?

The member states of the EU are NOT governed by the EU.
The EU (European Parliament) is largely a 'talking shop' (different argument but park it for now) and it is the individual countries that ratify the 'rules' and are responsible for policing them. UK MPs voted and ratified all 'rules' originating from Brussels.
If (we) don't like the rules suggested by the EU then we don't ratify them. OK there will then be some wrangling but the responsibility for governance falls on the individual states.
It is probably the case that some of the 'rules' that those in the UK object to were not sufficiently 'thrashed out' in Brussels to get a more suitable deal.
Although you cannot 'fire' the European Parliament, UK politicians can refuse to ratify aspects that are detrimental to the UK. Thus democracy for each member state is enabled. If (we) have had Euro MPs who have not argued the wishes of the (UK) public and UK Parliament forcefully enough then that is not the 'fault' of the European Parliament.
If any given member state failed to 'police' something it has ratified then I believe in theory the other states would eventually take exception and debate what to do about it. In around 30 years a strongly worded memo might then be presented to the 'offending' member. Then the 'legal team' would look at it and come up with something another 10 years down the line.
The UK is a 'mongrel' nation (union of nations) and in many ways this is good for the UK as a whole.

It is not outsourced

I didn’t think so.

And defence is laughable since the Tories got their mitts on the Armed Forces. They’ve stripped them to the point where we’d better start praying a war doesn’t start, because we have nowhere near the means to defend ourselves!

to fight back against the middle class who actually want the Brits to work for £2/hr - would you do that?

no, that would be illegal.

as mentioeed right at the start, Cameron tried to negotiate before the referendum and got very little from the eu. arrogance on all sides thinking the vote would not go to leave.

thats where not compromising and refusing to listen gets you. no winners.

Ghost of

Don’t worry yourself with defence spending - when st Jeremy is in charge he would let anyone roll their tanks into London without a shot being fired!

when you say the 'natives aren't willing to do these jobs' it just actually explains why people voted brexit, ie. to fight back against the middle class who actually want the Brits to work for £2/hr - would you do that?

Do you understand the point of the NMW? If British companies are breaking the law by paying under that, then they should be penalised. I can’t have a serious conversation with anyone who blames every problem in society on immigration.

@TomsRavencroft

• re: hippy trippy 😂😱😂😱

Already gone

You are dissembling - the eu is taking our decision making capacity slice by slice

‘There may be some wrangling’ - I don’t want wrangling I want a sovereign seat of power in London

We do want to leave...we voted to leave. Just because you don’t lol.

Having read the opening post, I'm still wondering why it's up to the EU (which is what the OP put as her topic subject line) would be throwing a bone to the UK in the first place? It was the UK who decided to have a referendum and the UK where the voter apathy decided that the entire UK was to leave the EU.
I do wonder however, if the people who did get out an vote thought that by leaving the EU, it would mean leaving the Common Trade Agreement area, the travel restrictions that would be imposed, the new laws that would have to be passed in the UK etc. etc. etc....
When Mrs May went on about a hard Brexit vs a soft Brexit and "Leave means Leave" and so on, I do doubt that many of the citizens in the UK were even remotely aware of what was around the corner.
I'd love to see a second referendum on the matter. I'd wonder how many of the people who voted to Leave would still vote to leave and if more people would actually get out and vote!

smed: I'll ask again, what use is the NMW to someone who can't realistically get reasonable work due to oversupply of labour?

@Heyduggeesflipflop you might want to google the definition of dissembling before you confidently and wrongly use it in a sentence.