#AD

[MintyT]

I don't know about you, but since the instamums posts I have really noticed the #AD on posts, and to be honest I had no idea I was so gullible. I loved the threads regards instamums and really think MN made a small change, well done us

Just awaiting the #dearmumsnet tshirt

MoD’s ‘fiercely protective of my children’ would be more appropriate if they weren’t constantly having a mobile phone shoved in front of their faces then broadcast to all and sundry.

But hey, no publicity is bad , right Clemmie?

As for ‘mega babe’ Natasha.

Ffs now her bestie Grace is in on it and Natasha has said ‘evil only exists if good women do nothing’ what the fuck makes her the good woman?! Wow, self obsessed!

Natasha has said ‘evil only exists if good women do nothing’

Jesus, who does she think she is?

Mumsnet is an online forum, not the seventh circle of hell.

Oh for gods sake. I, as a Mum, am so fricking tired of having Internet personalities trying to police what I can and cannot say.

If I want to question the ethics of people who use their kids as part of their income stream, I’ll bloody well do it.

I've lost total respect for MOD. I assumed she had taken a quiet stance over issues she chose not to address (whilst living the high life off her kids and going on holiday 'for us'- fair enough, your choice) but that post is like she has waited to pull a poor little me card without addressing any of the issues. Again, she doesn't have to address any issues she doesn't want to but playing the poor little bullied victim after Disney world, St Lucia, hotel stays, a new house, private schools, all of the back of 4 quirky, curly haired innocents is just laughable.
The campaign to suggest anyone who discusses the ethics is evil and mumsnet is a pit of doom is just so childish. Instagram has become full of narcissistic mummy's who won't be questioned on anything and make money off their kids. Lovely. NB, I followed Asha independent of NB and had never heard of her so found her responses and posts disgusting and I'm not sure who she is or what her USP is.

"Terrifying" "Evil"

It's all a bit OTT.

If they think MN is brutal they should read the 1* reviews on Amazon. Ouch.

So what's this latest crusade about then? Wanting to police opinion on the internet? Good luck with that, Instamums.

I don't see why 95% of the people that post on these sorts of threads should be censored because a handful of idiots fling insults around instead of having reasoned conversation.

Honestly they’ve lost it! Who do they think they are??

It’s like saying ‘dear twitter’ please stop people being mean about other people. It’s a blasted forum! What are they actually suggesting ‘dear mumsnet’ do about it?? Automatically shut down any thread that mentions an influencer in a less than fawning light?

I could be cynical and suggest these smaller accounts are actually just trying to get more followers and support by getting big accounts to share their posts. It's all just money and ads and traffic. They all then post on each other's walls in support and followers click the links and keep on following and spinning money their way. It's interesting how MOD has taken this stance after MotherPukka's very different tactic of opening up discussion and I wonder how real these 'darling' friendships are. They probably all sit in their own homes just going 'oh my god she's so up her own backside, 5th holiday of the year, and her book is dreadful, but if I say anything I'll lose 20k followers as I'll look like a bitch'
It's a horrible, narcissistic lifestyle and real friends must be few and far between.
It's also embarrassing how for publicity they send their books to each other with notes for shameless free promotion, I can't imagine there's anything new in FOD's book because he's sold every inch of his children already.

They also miss the point that the majority of 'mumsnet' are not vicious bitches, but actually their followers quite often and there's posts on plenty of people in the public eye. There was a post recently about Jo Whiley being annoying etc why is Instagram so precious?!

What exactly do they want from #dearmumsnet? I can't work it out. I'm more than happy for Mumsnet to moderate and delete comments that cross the line, because I'm a reasonable human being with a decent amount of empathy. But I suspect my perception of this line is very different to others.

If you are publicly selling your family's lifestyle for profit you can't then believe you are above criticism for doing so. That's just laughable. Nobody is above being held to account, and if you make so much of your life public you will be held to account publicly - thems the breaks. I guess it comes down to how much you like free holidays/car seats/candles? Enough to shoulder criticism? Fine. Carry on.

Note the difference in attitude and response. MOD does not and has not used mumsnet and (understandably to be fair) dislikes being discussed. However she has turned her and her husband's social media accounts into massive money making businesses that rely (quite often) on their children for the success. She has never addressed online security and safety and has consistently defected any critism or questions and NEVER addressed use of her kids. It's so easy to just try and brush it aside as 'bullying'. I've had kids bullied and it is nothing like questioning ethics and whether your Portuguese holiday is a freebie.

MuthaPukka hasn't touched this one. She is very quietly and studiously doing good stuff over on her IG account. Another prominent fashion account hasn't gone near it either.

I was a bit disappointed to see some of the accounts whom have liked the #dearmumsnet posts - they may not value their audience that uses both IG and MN, but I bet we are a large percentage of their followers.

I think bottom line, no one on IG likes adding the pesky #AD to posts which shows pretty much all content on their feeds and stories is advertising in one shape or another.

I think what they are doing on insta is also bullying!!

And writing off a whole forum as being nasty/bitchy/dark etc etc is ridiculous when it's just a few threads

*MotherPukka

I agree with you Madame grizzly, am just waiting for other accounts I follow and respect to disappoint me and show that it really is just one big clique.

It’s awful that there are pregnant women following mod who will now not come here for support on sleep, feeding, relationships etc because of this campaign. Are the influencers going to be there at 2.30am when the baby won’t latch and you are at the end of your tether and just need some help and support???

And to add I feel I cannot comment on any Instagram posts because I will be blocked or on the receoving end of abuse for disagreeing. Hardly a wholesome, supportive community. I was thinking about some posts on here that are just amazing and basically how much people do for strangers (there was a domestic abuse thread with someone taking in someone's animals, just inspiring!) and then there's these pampered princesses who don't like being questioned just slating the whole forum and whipping up hatred and unpleasant comments and bitching.

@jackiebrambles nope they won't be there, as MOD addressed in stories recently, it's not her place to offer advice or respond to questions, support must come from your midwife or team etc.

I honestly don't think anyone would stop using MN because of those posts. I would imagine a few people may have a look and realise the active threads are covering a massively diverse array of topics and not spewing out lines of hate, as is being suggested.

MOD claimed on one response on the posts that MN "lost a lot of advertising which would have cost them" after the instamums thread. Really?! I wonder how she gets hold of MN advertising stats. I find this extremely surprising. Advertisers follow clicks and I am sure each DM feature bumps the clicks up on the MN site (as MOD would know herself having had her husband's career launched off the back of a DM article). Wishful thinking perhaps.

I'm not on IG mainly because of this shit, but I bought How to Grow a Baby and it is the biggest waste of £14.99. DO NOT BUY IT.

I didn't realise the author was some kind of Instagram star and picked it up because it was the nicest design-wise.

Honestly there's nothing in it. Supposedly week by week but misses most of the weeks, the information is basic and nothing I didn't already know ...

I returned it and swapped it for the Pregnancy Bible which may be full of hilariously dated photos but is much more informative.

Sorry for the rant, I've been furious about the book since I bought it a couple of weeks ago and am tempted to add to the one star reviews ....

She is the queen of deflection. 'Genuinely, why?' What she's basically saying is why did I get questioned on whether my new super unaffordable to most, lifestyle was in fact full of freebies and why did those bitter bitches who thought I was a midwife make me #ad everything? And how dare they mention my children being used.

It's not like people were picking on her clothes or features or sexual orientation. I can't help thinking this is a bad move for MOD.

I hope you are right and that it won’t put people off who the mumsnet community could help.

I feel very defensive of this place today!

Maybe she's got something lined up that she knows is going to attract a bit of flak so she's doing a pre-emptive strike. Who knows.