to not like the word 'c**t' being used as a 'cool' insult by celebrities

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Am I at odds with the world or stuck in a time warp where people don't use this word as an insult, but as anglo-saxon for the beautiful female body part used for sex and procreation? Since when do men and women think it's ok to appropriate the best part of the female body to mean the worst of humanity? And no, I don't think it is the same as the analogy of black people owning the 'n' word. Be interested in people's thoughts.

I love using the word "cunt" and do so whenever possible. It's one of those words which offend people for no good reason. There is literally nothing to be offended about, after all it's used on the news every day (followed by the word "tree").

"Cunt" is actually a term of endearment for many people, it shows a mutual respect and confidence in the level of friendship.

I do like the word “bifters” I’ve not heard it before!

It was one of the words I had to lose quite quickly, when I moved down South.

@CuriousaboutSamphire that’s a shame. I love regional dialects, hearing the words used. Bampy for grandad in Wales is a particularly nice one.

It is isn't it? All I have nowadays, are some very flat vowels and the occasional word.

Can't remember what we were talking about but a friend was very impressed with 'antwacky'. She loved the sound and the fact that 'antique' sort of reads like that - if you are a kid!

curious it could be a Liverpool wirdfunny I thought it was a Manchester thing, I don't know why, probably because Mark Radcliffe used to say it when I listened to his show!!

I'm not from Liverpool but the other side of the Mersey and a lot of famlies from Liverpool moved to our area when I was at school so we picked a lot of new ( to us ) words up. Gob, as in 'shut ya gob you, otherwise I'll shut it for ya' was one. This is probably why mother hated that word!!

Antwacky! I’ve just googled it and apparently it’s Liverpudlian for old fashioned or unstylish. What a brilliant word!

Blimey, curious you are taking me down memory lane! We always used the antwacky!

My brother had a Spanish girlfriend who lived in Liverpool for a while. I used to love her accent used with the local lingo. There was something amusing about the Spanish tilt telling a story of 'legging it across town'

In turn she loved hearing new slang and then putting it into conversation at every chance!

I keep hearing that it's a term of endearment in Scotland. Well, unless things are very much changed in the last few years, not the part I come from

No, nor me. And I am puzzled by the suggestions that it is because I'm posh and/or a resident of Bearsden or Morningside and/or a patron of the opera and genteel restaurants and therefore some sort of outlier.

In reality I'm from a modest farming background , brought up in a village where working class, middle class and even the occasional landed gentry all rubbed along together.

Smeddum is a brilliant word. I thoroughly recommend Lewis Grassic Gibbon's short stories Clay, Smeddum and Greenden.

He is outstanding in the way he writes female characters. In most of his work, not just the Scots Quair trilogy, the women are the central characters.

@LassWiADelicateAir it was me who mentioned Bearsden and Morningside as places you’d be unlikely to hear it. It wasn’t about you? In fact I don’t think you’d even joined the thread by then.

I stand by that. You’d be far more likely to hear it on football terraces, in pubs and (let’s be straight) working class areas than you would in a tearoom in Morningside?

Lewis Grassic Gibbon is a name I’ve not heard in a long time! Sunset Song was our 5th year book. I hadn’t heard of Clay, Smeddum and Greenden. I’ll have a look, thanks.

It was me who mentioned Bearsden and Morningside as places you’d be unlikely to hear it. It wasn’t about you? In fact I don’t think you’d even joined the thread by then

It is irrelevant whether the "Bearsden/Morningside" comment was directed at me. It is a lazy stereotype which you are further prompting your "Morningside tea room" comment- as if outside these enclaves we all go around as if we are in Trainspotting.

I've only been to 2 football matches in my life so can't comment on that but pubs? No. I disagree.

Further promoting

You probably don't notice because you aren't listening out for it though?
I was in a pub in Glasgow last month, the guys at the table behind us used it a few times, the only reason I noticed or cared was because I was with my DD. It is a word which is said more often, and used in contexts of PP's have mentioned, not always as an insult.

Surely no word is offensive, the word means nothing without its context? Is it not the way in which something is said which brings offence?

I find it offensive and aggressive. I would not want to be around people who use it as a normal part of their vocabulary.

If it is inoffensive why were you bothered about your daughter hearing it? If context is all why should you care whether she hears it if it was not being used in a way not intended to offend?

It is irrelevant whether the "Bearsden/Morningside" comment was directed at me. It is a lazy stereotype which you are further prompting your "Morningside tea room" comment- as if outside these enclaves we all go around as if we are in Trainspotting.

You referred to “that I must be from Bearsden or Morningside” which is why I responded.

I’m promoting no stereotypes, my Grannie lived in Morningside so I spent a lot of time there, never once heard the word cunt.

Also a season ticket holder at Parkhead, and I’ve heard it a lot. At many football grounds.

Pubs, was a generalisation since I don’t drink and therefore don’t go to pubs. Although if they’ve changed radically in the 10 years I’ve been teetotal I’d be very surprised.

I’ve lived on a council estate for years, most of my friends still do, and it’s common in usage, not as an insult.

My family live in the “better” (for want of a better word) parts of Edinburgh, Stirling and Glasgow. In my years of going to their houses and spending time in those areas, I’ve never heard the word used.

So far from being “lazy” and propagating stereotypes, I’m going on 30 + years of experience of mixing in different circles and areas.

But thanks ever so for your patronising post. I knew I recognised your username. I should have steered clear.

Because I don't think it's an appropriate word for a child?

It isn't a word I would ever use, I'm not a fan of swearing as a whole tbh, but do I find it offensive, no. That's totally different to what I deem appropriate for my child to hear/say.

If I was sitting in someone's company, a joke was made and some said 'ah your a funny C' I know they mean whoever is a funny person or being sarcastic if it wasn't funny. If they were screaming, shouting and aggressively calling someone a f'n C that's a different situation and the word does hold a different meaning. One situation I would be fine with the word being used, the other not so much. 🤷🏼‍♀️

For what it's worth, I live in Paisley and work in a male dominated field, with a lot of working class guys. I hear it daily as a fairly casual friendly term.

You referred to “that I must be from Bearsden or Morningside” which is why I responded

Do you always take things so literally? It was irrelevant whether you were referring to me. You were referring to anyone who disagrees with your assertion that in Scotland we all go around using that word as a term of endearment. You have your little idea of Morningside types.

I find this word aggressive and threatening. I don't like people who use it as part of their normal conversation. Swearing in general doesn't impress me and other than the spectacularly inventive swearing in The Thick of It I don't think it is cool or clever.

@LassWiADelicateAir well being autistic I do tend to take things literally, yes. If someone refers to a comment I’ve made and makes it about them when it wasn’t I do try to explain.

And I haven’t said “we all go around” using it, don’t talk pish. I have given examples where it would be unlikely to hear it, and examples where it’s more likely. Through personal experience.

My point is that the word isn’t pleasant, fair enough. But your nasty way of speaking to anyone who disagrees (on any thread I have to say) is far, far more telling than someone who uses a 4 letter word.

Your username is beyond ironic, there is hee haw delicate about your posting style, and you plainly don’t read what people reply to you, you just continue with your own agenda. So you carry on asserting that I’m wrong, and when you find that tearoom in Morningside full of people swearing at the top of their voices, I’ll be more than happy to stand corrected.

Until then,

You have your little idea of Morningside types

The demographic of Morningside is, in the main, older people, predominantly women, the ones I’ve met were lovely, just unlikely to swear. So if that’s a “little idea” then fair enough.

Given that you have a very narrow view of what people (and in particular) Scots should be and how they should be, I find your assertions amusing. Not once did I say anything negative about Morningside, or Bearsden or the people who live there. Nor did I about the other places I mentioned.

You on the other hand, are very keen to use strong language to condemn anything you view as different to your own opinion, with little or no tolerance for anyone else’s. If that’s not a stereotype in action I don’t know what is.

The "worst word" is becoming mainstream. It used to be totally taboo.

I absolutely hate that word and have never said it. I think it sounds really aggressive and it really makes me cringe if I hear it. I think I might hate it so much as it rhymed with my maiden name so I used to get called it a lot growing up along with the oh so original 'is your Dad's name Mike?' (thanks Porkies 😩).

Cunt is my favourite word.
I don't think it directly translates to Vagina when used as a swear word anymore.
And I think vulvas are beautiful. But I'm gay.

Even if it doesn't directly relate to vagina any more, do people really think that there is no misogyny in the worst insult (and, unless someone can think of another one, it still is) a man can throw at another man is a word for a woman's genitals?