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to not like the word 'c**t' being used as a 'cool' insult by celebrities

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Bouncealot · 21/04/2018 14:42

Am I at odds with the world or stuck in a time warp where people don't use this word as an insult, but as anglo-saxon for the beautiful female body part used for sex and procreation? Since when do men and women think it's ok to appropriate the best part of the female body to mean the worst of humanity? And no, I don't think it is the same as the analogy of black people owning the 'n' word. Be interested in people's thoughts.

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ButchyRestingFace · 23/04/2018 15:38

I will not be at large in Glasgow then because I despite people using this word more than any other. Vile and unnecessary.

Ach well, Glasgow’s loss is Glasgow’s gain.

Smeddum · 23/04/2018 15:46

@notacooldad google it.

Your sweeping generalisations of teenage girls being “critical, spiteful and nasty” is emotive and unfair.

Your complete dismissal of the words (and attitudes) described being patriarchal in origin as if that doesn’t matter is ridiculous.

And your default response to get aggressive with a woman who disagrees with you speaks volumes.

BertrandRussell · 23/04/2018 15:47

I've spent quite a lot of time in Glasgow, and I really don't think I've heard "cunt" there any more often than anywhere else.

BertrandRussell · 23/04/2018 15:48

I make it a rule of life to be very wary of anyone who uses the word "females" instead of "women"

ButchyRestingFace · 23/04/2018 15:49

I've spent quite a lot of time in Glasgow, and I really don't think I've heard "cunt" there any more often than anywhere else.

Perhaps your reputation precedes you?

Aethelthryth · 23/04/2018 15:50

Everything Bertrand has said is right.

ButchyRestingFace · 23/04/2018 15:51

I make it a rule of life to be very wary of anyone who uses the word "females" instead of "women"

That was my late mum. Women or ladies when speaking about people she approved of. Females when speaking of women she didn’t approve of.

Tbf, she didn’t know she was doing it until it was pointed out. Grin

BertrandRussell · 23/04/2018 15:52

"I've spent quite a lot of time in Glasgow, and I really don't think I've heard "cunt" there any more often than anywhere else.

Perhaps your reputation precedes you?"

Wouldn't that mean I heard it more?

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 23/04/2018 15:59

Bertrand

It's certainly reasonably common use here, espcially in pub culture. Not sure about elsewhere, although def the same in NI. And Dublin.

You are not likely to have a waiter in a naice restaurant saying it of course. Although maybe the chefs.

Katedotness1963 · 23/04/2018 16:04

I keep hearing that it's a term of endearment in Scotland. Well, unless things are very much changed in the last few years, not the part I come from.

notacooldad · 23/04/2018 16:07

*@notacooldad google it.

Your sweeping generalisations of teenage girls being “critical, spiteful and nasty” is emotive and unfair. I thought I made it clear that I was referring to some the girls that were in our care not a general moment about the whole teenage girl population. The girls that have been subjective to these comments have indeed found the comments spitefulnasty and criticaland as workers we've helped pick up the pieces and support them wit groups work on self esteem and confidence.

Your complete dismissal of the words (and attitudes) described being patriarchal in origin as if that doesn’t matter is ridiculous.. I can't change the past but look to the future to hopefully change some of the negative attitudes people have towards each other.

And your default response to get aggressive with a woman who disagrees with you speaks volumes can you show me where I was aggressive? I did say what the fuck does your made up word mean. Actually I still don't know. I didn't know you were a woman. I was just responding to a poster on MN with a username.

I make it a rule of life to be very wary of anyone who uses the word "females" instead of "women
I don't know if this was a go at me but in some context I do use this word. However it is only in a work situation. The group of people I have been referring to are not women. In SS we still use the words male and female on our Smart Plans and other documentation.

BertrandRussell · 23/04/2018 16:11

"It's certainly reasonably common use here, espcially in pub culture"

Yes, it is here in Kent too. It's tho constant assertion that it's regularly used as a normal term of affection, and in workplaces that I question!

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 23/04/2018 16:18

I didn't say 'normal' but it's certainly quite common in certain circles. Not likely to come up on a trip to the Opera, granted

I have no particular dog in this fight Bert, but I can assure you that I am not lying. I don't really understand why you are trying to imply that what I am saying is not true. You may not have experienced it, but I was born and lived in Glasgow for a large part of my life and I didn't imagine it

ButchyRestingFace · 23/04/2018 16:18

Yes, it is here in Kent too. It's tho constant assertion that it's regularly used as a normal term of affection, and in workplaces that I question!

It depends on the work place. On a building site I could see it, a doctor’s surgery, no.

If a man called me a cunt, even in jest, I would be very 🤨

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 23/04/2018 16:21

Ah but it's used for men. I have rarely heard a woman being called it and never in a way that was not abusive.

Smeddum · 23/04/2018 16:21

@notacooldad my “made up” word has a definition in the dictionary.

I don’t feel the need to engage with you any further, I got divorced to get away from a man whose default reaction was to swear when he was challenged (and worse), so I’ll be fecked if I’m going to tolerate it from someone online.

to not like the word 'c**t' being used as a 'cool' insult by celebrities
Lethaldrizzle · 23/04/2018 16:22

To all those parts of the country where it's used as a term of affection woukd that be for your kids too? Hmm

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 23/04/2018 16:23

No

Smeddum · 23/04/2018 16:25

No, if anyone referred to my child as a cunt I’d lose it completely. Actually I have to say reading the thread I’ve been enlightened that it’s not the harmless word I thought it was and won’t be using it.

notacooldad · 23/04/2018 16:26

We swear a lot in our job ( not in front of the young people of course) Mostly it is out of frustration and sadness but I have never once heard cunt being used. There are a lot of words the young people use and we let a lot go otherwise we would never be able to have a conversation with them but they are always pulled up when words are used against each other or against us. Even with the young people (11-17) with the most challenging behaviour ( staff being attacked, our cars smashed, window put through , abuse thrown at us etc)cunt is rarely used. Maybe it's a demographic thing?

ButchyRestingFace · 23/04/2018 16:27

To all those parts of the country where it's used as a term of affection woukd that be for your kids too? hmm

No.

Unless I’ve dreamed it, I seem to remember a thread where a poster’s word for vagina/vulva was “fanny”. Her small child used the word too. She said that was the acceptable term in her area.

This would sooooo not fly in Scotland.

RhurbabAndCustard · 23/04/2018 16:27

I use it all the time in the car when I'm alone and someone is driving like one. It's one of my most favourite words to mutter under my breath when alone

notacooldad · 23/04/2018 16:28

smedum I seriously hadn't some across that word before and thought it may have been a MN word ( like 'naice')

Also Smedum do you always make assumptions? Grin

ButchyRestingFace · 23/04/2018 16:29

I did say what the fuck does your made up word mean.

She didn’t make it up. Confused

And all words are “made up”.

Smeddum · 23/04/2018 16:30

This would sooooo not fly in Scotland

No it definitely wouldn’t!