The pornstar look

[PinkbicyclesinBerlin]

I know, I know we should not be judging each other but the pornstar look? Why would you do that to yourself, over inflated boobs, over inflated lips what is it about it that appeals to some women. I presume men are attracted to it because it screams sexually interesting but I cannot understand why women are drawn to it. AIBU

Bravo @Tatiana, brav-bloody-o.

Is it possible for you to read posts without inferring that the aim is to make you feel inferior dog?

To be clear: I’m not at all surprised that women feel pressurised about their appearance, what surprises me is the numbers that seek invasive and expensive treatment as a result.

I guess they like it. & men and the media will pay them a shedload of money for looking like a sexual blow up doll. This hypocritical society preaches that women should be holy Madonnas, yet fetes them when they look like the exact opposite. A man's walking talking (impossible) fantasy.

I can't feel deeply about judging them for working the shallow system. It's not as if women judging other women in disapproval will change anything.

This is all very ‘Young women! Don’t be controlled by middle aged men! Be controlled by middle aged women!’

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss

^ Yep

Whilst plastic surgery should never be entered into on a whim without good qualified advice, I happen to think it's great that we live in an age where if someone has a problem physical or psychological, there are options for them. A good friend of mine has DH who declared himself a woman a few years back. He has now completed a full surgical transformation, they are no longer married and it has cost a fortune. However, had this not been an option for him, he would she knows, have either been a missing person or taken his life. This would have left 2 amazing kids without their birth Dad. It's an extreme case.
Boob jobs, surgery can change lives for the better. Many people drive around in expensive cars which loose cash and larger sums of money the second they are driven out of the show room. Surgery is seen everyday and potentially enjoyed everyday. So why not?

I think the pressure for boobs/surgery/Botox depends on what circles you socialise in - for example the celeb circle is very "not allowed to age".

I personally don't feel pressure or attraction towards surgery, but I do towards shaving. I hate shaving and I don't mind hairy legs (I don't touch them September-April), but I feel so much pressure that I can't get my legs out if they're hairy. I hate that my daughters will probably get bullied at school if they don't shave.

Wish that wasn't the case, but I'm not strong enough to wear shorts out and about with my friends while having 1-2cm long black hairs on my legs. So I have to spend £15 on waxing if I don't want to get stares and comments.

This is a case of bowing to pressure while not really wanting to do the thing, I guess there is another level where the pressure convinces you that actually, you like the thing.

Or maybe even in a 100% free non-patriarchal society, they still like the thing.

I agree about it being depended on your social circle.
And I don’t always think it’s about pressure, humans are social and send signals that they belong to certain ‘tribes’ all the time.
I look back at the way I dressed at uni now and think OMG what was I thinking? But at the time I genuinely liked it, it’s what’s my friends wore and it’s what made me belong.

Like I said upthread where I live plastic surgery is very common (in both senses of the word) and no one would blink anymore at Botox, in fact people have ‘Botox parties’ it’s normalisation as well as pressure.

Bit off-piste, but I reckon if penis enlargement was reliable, easy and available (wouldn't have a glue by the way about that surgery) .....lots of guys would probably seriously consider it.

tatiana

No one makes me feel inferior. But if you oook through your posts nearly everyone does include the term ‘I rush you could grasp, or it’s imposdibie to have a sensible debate on aibu etc. It’s a shame because it spoils your arguments

Sorry clue not glue...hope they wouldn't use glue for that! 😬

Oh they would and then they’d think they were gods gift

...of course, they would - never mind "have you had a boob job" it would be "is that all natural or have you by chance had a dick-fix?" 😉

Dick fix

On a roll with this so bear with....The Donald would have to be a candidate as we know how much he adores the body beautiful. In that case, the dick-fix would require a vast surgical team for the member and breakthrough full brain transplant 😂😂😂

Give a whole new meaning to trump towers

Nearly every one, dog or is that total bollocks?

Something is making you feel inferior as you keep going on about it.

It hasn’t been possible to have a sensible debate on this thread, it’s perked up a bit today, but it’s not been consistent. That’s my view, if you don’t like it I’m sorry I couldn’t give a toss.

If you want a proper debate about why women might want to change their appearance in a radical way I don’t think this is the thread to do it.
Starting from a less judgment OP will probably allow people to have a civil conversation.

It is an interesting question. Though I do think the answer is for one reason or another they think it looks good.

Same as why men (and some women) get facial tattoos and face piercings.

There’s no reason a sensible debate cannot ensue from controversial starting point - that’s very often how debates start.

The OP herself has been perfectly civil.

Civil, yeah maybe. Overly negative, judgmental and trite, definitely. That's why the gloves tend to come off in these situations.

Judgemental perhaps, but self-confessedly so.

The gloves came off because posters weren’t able or chose not to debate rationally - they threw punches instead. For which you’re now trying to blame the OP - when it’s not actually her responsibility.

The OP herself has been perfectly civil

Well your definition of civil and mine differs greatly. I don't find being negatively judgemental about people to be remotely civil. Because I go with the dictionary defintion of "courteous and polite". I find it the opposite, discouteous and impolite.

Maybe you can share your defintion of civil with all of us, so we understand why you feel being proactively publicly negatively judgemental about other women feels perfectly civil to you?

Clearly. If you want to know my definition of civil Bluntness it would not include your posts.

Nor do I find them un-judgemental. Indeed judgement of women seems to be fine as long as you’re doing it, and as long as they’re perceived by you to not be attractive - you can insult them how you like.

the plump middle aged woman shakes her grey haired head and purses her lips in her un made up face. In her baggy clothes she tuts loudly

I'm fairly sure plenty of women look at you and don't understand why you chose to look as you do and would chose not to look as you do

And unless you are "thick" op you know exactly why some people chose that look, they like it, they find it attractive, they like attention from others. Stop playing the wide eyed inncocent who doesn't have a clue

Post a pic of yourself, let's all see if your a healthy weight, if you're hair is well groomed, your skin well cared for

The op and I would never be friends, I could not tolerate someone like that and I will judge her for it

Ah, don't like getting challenged I see?

Too right I'm judgemental about women who proactively and publicly make negative judgements on other women's appearance. I will slam them hard in response and not be remotely civil about it.

If women know they are going to get called out for it, maybe they will think twice before doing it.

Civil in response. No . None of us should be.

As if you were any kind of challenge.

You’ve been called out for doing far worse than you accuse the OP.

If you reserve the right to ‘slam’ women when you fancy, you can hardly complain when someone else does it.

You’ve shown yourself up as a bitchy, shallow, judgemental, un-civil hypocrite.