The pornstar look

[PinkbicyclesinBerlin]

I know, I know we should not be judging each other but the pornstar look? Why would you do that to yourself, over inflated boobs, over inflated lips what is it about it that appeals to some women. I presume men are attracted to it because it screams sexually interesting but I cannot understand why women are drawn to it. AIBU

Bad reactions only highlight to me the other persons insecurites

I definitely would not say I feel insecure around this look. Definitely not. Being honest I would presume the opposite that the person sporting the look was insecure, see how wrong I’d be.

I’m glad you posted though because you post blows the wants to marry a sports star as the ambition theory well out of the water with your background.

Can I ask what it is about the look that appeals to you personally? Does it physically interfere with your work nails, breast implants? It seems a really difficult look to maintain and work around especially for a physically demanding type of work.

Lol.

I didn't contribute to the 'first, deleted thread', although I remember you referencing it on your own thread many times which I did contribute to.

So please get your facts correct and threads straight in your mind before making a fool of yourself in future and also stop TIing thanks

I’m glad you posted though because you post blows the wants to marry a sports star as the ambition theory well out of the water with your background.

No it doesn't. That's not how it works. Not everyone that wants to marry a footballer or sports star is some sort of vapid work-shy invalid.

You still don't grasp it and you still want to categorise women according to your standards.

It really is a wondrous thing when misogynists have women on their side criticising and denigrating other women. It's almost a sad irony. Misogyny doesn't need men, there are enough women upholding the movement. Go sister! Let's burn the whores and witches!

Vlad I think we can safely say a HCP actually has a personal ambition, as I said earlier I don’t view setting out to marry a sports star as a personal ambition. Obviously you do.

I personally think the sports star has an ambition not the person hoping to live vicariously though their husband. Different perspective.

No Pink they both have an ambition.

One is apparently morally/socially acceptable to you and the other isn't.
But that's neither here nor there.

Both are striving to attain a position in life through various means. Your approval isn't a prerequisite of their ambition.

Obviously you do.

Again with judgement and supposition. The patriarchy really pulled a number on you.

I have a friend who's had quite a lot done to change her natural appearance. Boob job, huge lips with fillers, dark curls dyed platinum blonde and straightened. In her case, it does come from a place of low self-esteem, even though she was naturally a very attractive girl anyway. She has said she does it because she wants to look sexy and hopes it will help her to find a man. Sadly all her serious relationships so far have been with dickheads who've treated her badly, although I can't say that they were definitely with her because of the way she looks. No matter how much work she has done to her appearance, she never seems happy with how she looks.

There are lots of people who have boob jobs, fillers etc who look and feel great, but I think people who want to drastically change their appearance often have some deep-rooted insecurities. I have known this woman since primary school and in her family she was always lauded as the "pretty" one while her brother was the "clever" one, so I do wonder if this has anything to do with how focused she is on the way she looks now.

I can’t afford plastic surgery. But I’d have my boobs done and a tummy tuck if I could. And I like a style of dress which could be considered tarty because I think it looks cool. Nothing to do with male gaze.

These two are my style icons.

Because I like it 😉

Why do you choose to wear the clothes you wear? Why do you strive to achieve a certain weight/ size/ hair colour/ hair length?

I like very long bleached blonde hair, I wear heavy makeup and like big lips and big breasts. Rightly or wrongly, to me- it makes me feel powerful and feminine. It is my choice and it makes me feel happy when I catch sight of my reflection. That in itself does not hurt anyone and is something that I think is good for you- liking yourself is not a bad thing.

At work I wear a tunic and a face mask. I keep nails short and tie my hair back. My implants do not get in the way and they do not hurt my back as I'm religious about working out and strengthening my back muscles.

I certainly do not want to attract a footballer as I am financially independent and indeed, the man I am seeing now is a student- I support him and am happy to do so.

I am very happy in my relationship so my appearance is not to attract attention or a rich mate. It is purely my personal preference to how I like to look. And actually, TBH, it takes a lot of confidence to look this way as it doesn't always have a good reaction. But again, the only reaction I am interested in- is my own.

For me, th e women who feel the need to put other women down are more often or not the ones who lack confidence and have low self esteem. Of course other women may also have that, but usually if you're the personality type where you compete against, judge and deride other women's choices, then often it's something you've done since puberty and will continue to do it till you die due to lack of self esteem and self confidence. It's generally done to make the person feel superior, better about themselves. "Look at her, I'm so much better".

The op asks faux inncocently " what is it about the look you like" to one poster, whilst resolutely not posting a pic of her self or discussing her own look, she does not wIsh to invite judgement regarding her looks, she just wants to judge others and feel superior to women who make choices to look a certain way.

I bet you’d be surprised how many women you know have breast implants, Botox, hair extensions, nails manicured, but you just don’t know because they have a natural look and they don’t tell you because you’re judgemental.

Teacup maybe who can say? That is not the topic of the thread though. The pornstar look is a very extreme version of what you are describing there. Certainly there is no person walking around with it that could be mistaken for au natural.

Dowhat clothes are different to extreme surgical enhancement though. I must admit my assumptions would all have been around people having very low self esteem to go to those extraordinary lengths, more like anorexia than fashion, however obviously your post shows that for many women it is the opposite. It is purely based around their attraction to the look itself and not how attractive they will be to others.

As for the bagging a wealthy husband as a personal ambition, yep I own my judgeness on that.

And I assume I am taken in by the patriarchy, to a lesser extent than the vast majority, to a greater extent than some. Who isn’t affected by the culture around them? You’d have to live alone on an island not to be taken in by the patriarchy.

Well it is what the topic of discussion because lots of posters are doing a head tilt ‘but why would people want to change themselves they are perfect as they are’ or a ‘you must have to be so insecure to have enhancements’, when in actual fact it’s quite common for women to have a high maintanance look you just aren’t aware of it because it looks more natural. The ‘porn star look’ is just a style of enhancement.

It’s the bitchy girls from school all grown up.

it’s quite common for women to have a high maintanance look you just aren’t aware of it

Of course I am aware of high maintenance looks for women. I don’t live under a rock but that is not what this thread is about. That is definitely a thread for another day. The extreme version of this look. Back in the good old days of Eurotrash, and remember I am a 40 year old codger here so you may not even have a clue what I am referring to, but there was a look called a pornstar look, Lolo Ferrari was one of the original proponents of the look (incidentally it killed her in the end) and that is what this thread is about. That look is absolutely extreme and is not what you are talking about at all.

It’s the bitchy girls from school all grown up.

^^This. And most of the women I’ve met with this look have been lovely warm women who wouldn’t dream of judging other women by their looks.

Well the you might be talking about that but there was people on the thread saying the girls from Made in Chelsea have the ‘porn star look’ and none of those look like lulu Ferrari

I work with a lady who fits this description perfectly. Large implants on a small frame, lip fillers, bleach blonde hair down to her bottom, fake tan, eyelash extensions, lots of make up and high heels, probably botox (although she is quite young so maybe not). She is beautiful and looks fantastic in photos but in real life, at work anyway, her tan and hair especially don't always look so great. But then it does all require a lot of upkeep.

She is a GP, a highly qualified medical doctor. Neither thick nor poor, and definitely not someone with more spare time than the rest of us. She is married with children. I don't know why she does it, but she looks a million times better than I do!

A friend of mine has had several surgeries to alter her appearance and breast size. She dresses in fitted clothes, heels all the time and wears more makeup than I do. She's also one of the most fiercely intelligent, independent women I know, runs her own hugely successful business helping others alter their appearances and takes care of herself in a way many of our mutual friends don't.

I wouldn't assume anything about a woman who looks like she's had surgery. She might have done it for insecurity, she might have done it for self-esteem, she might have done it to snag an Accrington Stanley player. Whose business is any of it but her own? The fact that some women want to judge others for choosing a certain style or look suggests that it's the ones doing the judging who are far more insecure.

Are you a bit jealous?
Lots of love, Susan xx

patriarchy

Yep, because back in the good'ol sexist 70s when women were more natural things were so much better than now because patriarchy.

Teacup I hadn’t I realised that the term was not ubiquitous enough that people knew it. And yes I can see people did move the thread on but I did say multiple times that it was not a look that could be achieved remotely naturally. It is an extreme surgical look.

But I definitely am judgemental about it. I don’t care if that offends people or if people won’t be my friend in real life. Actually I am not lacking in self esteem so those comments are water off a ducks back to me.

The look has health risks for the muscoskeletal system, risks of infection, constant surgical risks. It is extreme. It is not simply a look about clothes or nails or haircuts and natural curves.

Yeah and my point is that cosmetic surgery’s are far more common now than ever, it’s not just women with this ‘porn star’ look that have breast implants and Botox and lip fillers.
Lots of perfectly normal people have these things too (not me btw) but just don’t admit it. In fact some of the most ‘naturally beautiful’ women I know are the ones with the most enhancements, hair extensions to fill out thin hair, Botox to freshen the face, breast implants from an a to a c cup, retanoid cream, gel nails every two weeks.

Is your problem that it’s surgery and maintenance or that it’s a certain image your disapprove of?

Lolo Ferrari was one of the original proponents of the look (incidentally it killed her in the end)

The cause of death of Lolo Ferrari is recorded as suicide by overdose. From what I can see, it was anti depressants. Whilst Ms Ferrari is at the extreme end of surgical enhancement, it seems it didn't kill her.