Dh ordering medication online

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I've found out about it because he's doing it through my name.

I don't know what to think about it and I'm asking here... Are these sites always dodgy? I can't talk to him about it as he tells me to be quiet and I don't know what I am talking about.

mummy he can only have the wherewithal to do that (prescription forms) if he is a doctor. It is technically legal for him to do so, but not approved of.

The General Medical Council says that:

"GPs ‘must’ avoid prescribing for themselves or ‘anyone with whom they have a close personal relationship’."

It also adds that doctors must immediately make a clear record justifying why there was no other alternative, and also inform their own, or the other person’s, GP about which medicines have been prescribed.

If he is prescribing himself unsuitable drugs, over a period of time and which are fuelling an addiction, if it came to light it's likely that he would be considered unfit to practise and be struck off.

If you were addicted to prescription drugs that were legitimately prescribed then yes you would still be a drug addict.

Hardly relevant though when that is nowhere close to the reality of your situation.

What I don't understand is why he's this terrible drug addict and ss would take the kids but if he was prescribed them he wouldn't

Because if it's prescribed by another practitioner it's for a defined cause and the prescription will be reviewed regularly.

But by your own admission he's taking them because he's addicted. Which moves the gaolposts into the next county.

From The Mix, the govt drug advice website:

Is it legal?

It is illegal to buy prescription-only drugs without a prescription or consultation in the UK, whether on or offline. This law currently does not apply to websites based abroad as long as you’re buying for personal use. The same rule applies if you were to bring them through airport customs here.

Anabolic steroids are allowed, however the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) will take action if they suspect that people plan to supply medication to others. The MHRA only has the power to close down British-based sites which break the law, it doesn’t have jurisdiction over those based abroad.

There is currently a loophole in UK in the Medicines Act 1968 which means that although many drugs can be dispensed only after a patient has consulted a doctor, the consultation need not be face-to-face. Therefore quick online consultations with net doctors make such dodgy transactions legal.

He’s a terrible drug addict because that’s what he is. He’s addicted and is lying, cheating and manipulating to get them. No doctor would prescribe what he is taking and in those quantities.

Have you posted on here before OP about your DH who is a HCP and addicted?

If he is a medical professional, he is has done something that definitely would be classified as 'unfit to practice', which is that he has written a prescription for you and then used the drugs for himself.

He has also ordered drugs on-line pretending to be you which would have required to answer some questions about you which again were lies and again was done to gain drugs for himself.

Think of it. He probably loves his profession, has worked hard to get where he is. He loves his family and wouldn't want to risk to lose everything. Yet somehow, he was prepared to do something that was putting all this at risk and knowing it. Don't you think this is utter desperation of an addict? What next?

So the guy in the first couple of minutes of this film has a legitimate prescription for Pregabalin from his doctor.

I think this answers your question.

I was addicted to sleeping tablets that were legitimately prescribed. I was considered an addict and I did inpatient rehab.

But he wouldn't get them prescribed. Because he is an addict, rather than someone with a problem.

You have two options open to you:
a) continue with the status quo until either: your husband ODs or someone (your children's school/your nannny/a pharmacist/a colleague) reports your husband/your family to social services/the police/senior management.
b) do something - go to a narc anon family support group famanon.org.uk/ and contact Women's Aid 0808 2000 247

I know it's scary because right now you're in hell but at least it's a hell you know. Option b is the unknown. But all you have to do is talk. Explore your options and I guarantee you that you will feel stronger and less lost. You cannot change your husband's addiction - the only thing you can change is your reaction to it.

It must be exhausting keeping this a secret from the world. Imagine the relief if you didn't have to do that any longer.

What I don't understand is why he's this terrible drug addict and ss would take the kids but if he was prescribed them he wouldn't

But he just wouldn't be prescribed these drugs in this combination because, as people have pointed out, he would be putting himself seriously at risk of kidney damage amongst other problems. Also it's very clear that he wouldn't be prescribed them in the quantities he wants, hence the fact that he's not asking his doctor to prescribe them and sneaking around pharmacies and ordering online.

So if this is how you're justifying this situation to yourself, OP, it just doesn't work.

If he was prescribed the medication by a Dr for an actual medical condition the dosage would be monitored as would the effects they have on him. He isn't being prescribed them by a Dr he is buying them over the counter. He is abusing drugs. It doesn't matter whether he could get the medication on prescription or not, the fact is he isn't getting them for a known medical condition.
I could get prescribed something like morphine I would be using a drug but not abusing it cause it would be monitored.
I could order codeine online and take loads everyday. I would be both using and abusing the drug.
SS will not care that he does it in his study all they will care about is that he is taking drugs that are not prescribed in large quantities and you were doing nothing to get your kids away from it.

Op you are in cloud cuckoo land. No reputable doctor will prescribe this level and combination of drugs. Look at some of the posts above. He knows himself, he cries about it. Lots of drug users end up dead or very badly disabled. Get help. I'm gone. Good luck

Your comments OP:

"If dh had the medication prescribed be wouldn't be a drug user would he"
"What I don't understand is why he's this terrible drug addict and ss would take the kids but if he was prescribed them he wouldn't"

Which bit of this do you not understand?

The fact is that HE IS A DRUG ADDICT!!!!

HE

IS

AN

ADDICT.

It's IRRELEVANT whether he's snorting unprescribed cocaine, shooting up heroin or obtaining drugs from GP or pharmacies and it's IRRELEVANT that he has got dependent on a drug prescribed to him by a GP or consultant and due to the ongoing addiction is continuing to feed his addiction by faking symptoms, having you fake symptoms, going to multiple pharmacies, buying more drugs in your name.....

HE

IS

AN

ADDICT.

THAT is the problem.

He continues to have access to your children and you let him despite this!!

I think you're focusing on the wrong scenario here - what will happen if it's all exposed.

You need to think of some of the things that could happen if it's not exposed because not exposing the issue is not the safer option!:

• he drives and kills himself in the car, you and him, you him and the kids, a bystander, another driver
• his addiction leads to a mistake at work and he's outed and loses his job
• he shouts at you so much one of the children mentions it to a teacher at school who is concerned and that starts the whole SS ball rolling and everything WILL come out. In the aftermath he tries to shift blame to you saying you were the one forcing him to get drugs for you / for him and you have NO way of disproving that other than people taking your word

In ALL of these scenarios the truth comes out but the scenario managed by you is surely the most favourite?

I don't necessarily agree with PPs who say you should leave OP. But in place of that you should be getting him to leave and letting him know that he needs to go into rehab and that he works his shit out away from you and the children - if he wants to continue to have a family.

Also you say he's 'trying' to stop. Do you know this saying, 'Trying is lying'? If he wanted to stop he'd go to rehab, remove himself from your home for safety, and get himself sorted out. You'll note he hasn't done this.....

Its stupidly easy to get a a prescription. Really, really easy.

Lets say I register for an online gp service because I am away from home for work. I fill in the online stuff and give the right answers and state which drug I am after. If the website doesnt throw up red flags to the GP committing their signature then it is signed.

Before anyone tells me Im wrong I conducted an experiment for a research project and was able to get prescriptions for things from other countries by providing false data and giving the right answers. I also threw in a few red herrings that should have caused further questioning. I pretended to be a 5' 18 year old who weighed eight stone (I'm not). There are also drugs that are available through online prescription in some countries that arent in others (eg. UK/Ireland and Tramadol). If the script is issued in an EU country it can be taken into another pharmacy in an EU country to be filled.

“Your poor children - one parent addicted to medication and one who is unwilling to smell the coffee and put her children first.”

This ^^

“Pinky is spot on with this. Reaching out for help will not make you lose your children, but knowing that this is happening and not being proactive will”

And this ^^

“but can you face the thought of enabling him in his addiction to the point he dies from it”

And this ^^

“I report dh and he would kill himself. I am not kidding.”

It sounds like he is trying to do that all by himself

“This again? This is so Fucked Up. He is ending his life RIGHT NOW and you are helping him end it. He is committing suicide by taking drugs and you are giving them to him and enabling him to get them!”

And this ^^
Excellent post Samb79

Its disgraceful.

I meant the lack of legislation regarding cross border prescriptions were disgraceful, OP. Not you. You seem like you need a hug and a lot of support to do the right things in a shitty situation.

Very powerful video BerkInBag. Whatch it OP and maybe that will make it seem more real. Of course you'll think that these kids are nothing like your OH, but look at what the 17yo kid throws up. His body is no different to your OH, he will throw up the same thing, if not now, if he continues.

OP, people do understand that it's a no win situation at the moment.

But what they are trying to say is that it isn't going to get better if you don't do anything either.

Do you think you could email some of the addiction support charities mentioned and start a conversation with them asking for advice about how you can get help for both your husband and yourself? This won't be an unusual situation for them, and they will have advice about how you both help your husband and find the right support for you and your children.

But he just wouldn't be prescribed these drugs in this combination because, as people have pointed out, he would be putting himself seriously at risk of kidney damage amongst other problems.
That isnt true.
He wouldnt have these at these levels, but absolutely you can have these medications all together.
I don’t know if he could though depending on his job.

I suspect nothing is going to happen unless something occurs that takes it out of the OP's hands. This could be SS involvement, the husband being reported and exposed or him becoming seriously ill or dead as a result of his misuse of drugs.

Oh, and a promise is a comfort to a fool.

Why would you hug someone who agreed to lie about an imaginary illness to get drugs for her husband?

Look OP if you came on here, told the same information and asked who could help, where you could get it from etc. then I would feel a great deal of sympathy for you.

your only concerns are your guilty feeling if he kills himself and the semantics of whether someone is or isn't an addict because its legal or illegal.

I am sorry. I know you don't like hearing from me or what I have to say. but I go back to the fact that this is about a middle class woman putting her lifestyle and her "status" - a good salary from her H, able to afford a full time nanny etc - ahead of the health safety and welfare of her children, herself and the people that her husband works with and for.

arguments about prescribed/non prescribed are just you moving the chairs on the Titanic because you are too weak to face the fecking great iceberg right in front of you.

He is a junkie. you are an enabler. and yes, you are behaving like an unfit parent by putting him and his addiction before your children.

you have access to the support. its right there in front of you now at the hospital. so use it. or take the consequences. If you think things are shit at the moment then as they go on, they will believe me get a heck of a lot more shit.

@mummymeister because I feel sorry for her. Its a crappy situation, that she's in the middle of and I genuinely get the impression that she knows this in her heart of hearts.

I also agree with you and everyone who has mentioned it beforehand: once SS get involved and they will at some point, especially where her DH is a doctor and in charge of so many people! that she will be complicit with this and be guilty for the fact of knowing but not doing anything about it.

The prescribed/non prescribed is bollocks and you couldnt have put it better.