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Aibu to think Mumsnet has issues with black women

624 replies

Ghanagirl · 14/04/2018 11:51

Just that really, I’ve read really horrible comments about Meghan Markle, Alexandra Burke, Serena Williams talented and hardworking individuals who seem to offend some Mumsnetters simply by being beautiful and successful.
I’m not surprised as happens in RL but I guess it’s disappointing as Mumsnet touts itself as a more educated network than netmums

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findingmyfeet12 · 14/04/2018 12:21

The trouble is that you've noticed something that others haven't.

I'm not prepared to just take your word for it and that seems to be an issue for you.

I'm always willing to change my mind when provided with evidence.

lolaflores · 14/04/2018 12:22

I'm off. I don't get this really and I don't want to misunderstand something that I don;t get whilst leaving myself at the risk of seeming rejecting/critical of black women or WOC.
I can't understand why the women on MN are being accused of racism specifically. To my mind I see tolerance and an effort to include and be inclusive of belife and colour to the best of our ability when this is an anonmymous place to chat.
Over and out people

biscuitraider · 14/04/2018 12:23

I'm sick of people calling any criticism of a black person racial. It's an insult to black people as well, like they are being defined by their colour only. ANYONE in the public eye will usually get criticised for something or another, but black people should be excluded because they're black and so therefore it's got to be racist? How ridiculous.

Kate Middleton has had loads of criticism, is that because she's white then? Let people criticise who they want without labelling them racist ffs.

lattewith3shotsplease · 14/04/2018 12:24

OP,
Unless you can point me in the direction where it actually says " I don't like her because she's black" then I'm not interested in what you are saying.

You definitely come across as "chip on shoulder" type of person.

Maybe live your life as a nice, decent, human being, and not as a colour. Hmm

and I'm not white. Nor married to anyone white. Shock

OohMavis · 14/04/2018 12:24

I could quite easily accuse mumsnet of being all sorts of things if I compared threads criticising people and linked them in some ways.

I think there's a far bigger problem with bringing down women in general, for things they don't deserve, rather than it being an issue of race in particular.

But free speech an' all that.

Ghanagirl · 14/04/2018 12:24

lolaflores
I never said that Irish women are not discriminated against.
I was making a point that IN MY OPINION there’s a lot of underlying racism against women of colour on Mumsnet

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Birdsgottafly · 14/04/2018 12:25

I think what you are picking up on is the small mindedness often displayed on any subject.

There are a good amount of posters whose thinking is very fixed and they get their information from their immediate circle. So anything that deviates is wrong. This comes across on whether a Uni education is necessary, age to have children, SAHM etc.

It also comes out on any beauty/attractiveness thread. So African Mexican etc features are attacked and women who have these are declared unattractive. So are Asian features.

There are racists on her, of course and sometimes they shout the loudest and MN isn't good as it could be at tackling Racism. But there are also ignorant bitter posters, who you could conclude are Racist, but that's not what fuels the fire.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 14/04/2018 12:26

But what you seem to be refusing (presumably deliberately) to understand is that poeple are calling you goady because you have provided NO evidence for your claim and keep refusing to do so.

So you are not “calling out” racism, simply asserting that it is present without providing one shred of evidence.

Birdsgottafly · 14/04/2018 12:27

But I also agree that there are a lot of Women on here that just don't like Women who aren't just like them and someone Black is further far removed, so further disliked.

kateandme · 14/04/2018 12:27

I think its woman in general.woman of success.deff who are beautiful.more so if they are nice with it.
so if your nice a woman,beautiful then there is something highly suspicios about you and people will nit pick out ur bad points.

pictish · 14/04/2018 12:27

“I think there's a far bigger problem with bringing down women in general, for things they don't deserve, rather than it being an issue of race in particular.”

Totes agree.

Ghanagirl · 14/04/2018 12:29

pictish
Yes of course people of colour go looking for racism.
When a man rolled down his window and shouts “stupid monkeys” at me and my children crossing the road we were looking for it😒

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WetPaint4 · 14/04/2018 12:29

There is definitely an attitude towards the vernacular aspect of black culture, it was discussed on here the other week. But I can honestly say I've not noticed black women being targeted on here. People on Mumsnet seem to bitch about all different types of people.

And I think threads like this don't help black women, to be honest. You come across as desperate to be offended. Don't think I don't understand, I do. But unless you're in a position to provide evidence or proof to support your argument that goes beyond picking out a few names, you're just encouraging resentment from those who are just as desperate to be defensive, see for example a previous poster trying to claim some black women find smiling at them racist.

Nicknacky · 14/04/2018 12:30

But in this circumstance you ARE looking for it. Can you provide an example you have seen on mumsnet?

Ghanagirl · 14/04/2018 12:31

kateandme
Try being all those things and Black...

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bobstersmum · 14/04/2018 12:31

But saying I don't like meghan, alexandra etc isn't racist? I am not racist and don't say racist things, it's the permanently offended like yourself that interpret what they like from things...

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Ghanagirl · 14/04/2018 12:33

WetPaint4
So you shouldn’t speak up or call out offensive or racist words or behaviour as it upsets racists okay

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TSSDNCOP · 14/04/2018 12:33

I've seen some astonishing tripe recently written about Megan, nothing about her colour. But there's always someone on a thread that isn't a fan of the subject. The DoC gets caned regularly

DannyLaRuesBestFrock · 14/04/2018 12:34

I think a lot of women get slagged off on mumsnet. I really do not think it is nasty or racially motivated to say MM comes across as false (I do think she is false, but I LOVE her in Suits and I think she is stunningly beautiful).

I think gossiping about people in the public eye is human nature, regardless of colour of skin.

OohMavis · 14/04/2018 12:34

I wouldn't disagree that being black on top of those things brings with it further discrimination. I'd be surprised if anyone here would.

Are you saying the threads that specifically criticise high-profile black women are nastier than those criticising high-profile white women?

Ghanagirl · 14/04/2018 12:34

Okay aibu nobody on Mumsnet is racist and black woman are just looking to be offended

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Birdsgottafly · 14/04/2018 12:34

" Mumsnet touts itself as a more educated network than netmums"

It is but education doesn't mean intelligence, critical thinking and recognising personal bias (and being a twat).

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 14/04/2018 12:35

yes but ghana, if you say that certain women are only disliked because of their colour, then arent you reducing them somewhat?
I mean i guess they have personalities as well as a skin colour.

However, all that shizz about Michelle Obama being a trans-sexual was a bit racist tbh.

MagnifyingGlassSearch · 14/04/2018 12:37

Ghanagirl Sat 14-Apr-18 12:07:56
lolaflores Black women also suffer mental health issues and physical challenges and I’m 2nd generation Afro carribean.
But I wouldn’t have to tell you I was whereas you might have to point out your Irish heritage and it makes all the difference to the way people react to you.

That's a different issue altogether and no one could deny this happens.

However, regarding your original OP, you still have not provided a single example of what you're basing your 'theory' on. On that basis, YABVVU.

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