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pt.2 To find floral tributes being left for Harry Vincent offensive

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lostjanni · 11/04/2018 20:35

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lostjanni · 12/04/2018 10:59

Joining in again, i don't feel sadness at all for the criminal or his family, not one bit. How dare say he wasn't a violent man, or didn't murder or rape people so he is a good man, how dare they put up a shit excuse of a shrine outside the real victims home when the low life didn't even die there.

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Quietwordinear · 12/04/2018 11:01

The authorities in this country have a history of sitting on problems and ignoring them, until they get out of hand.

This would be an accurate assessment of the Vincents. They've been known criminals for at least thirty years. It was obvious when it came to HV by age 11 that the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

But just who and how was anyone supposed to intervene? People were terrified of them; safety could not be guaranteed. The only people with the back up to deal with them were the police in numbers.

My relative said it best when he described them as "poundland peaky blinders". That's the kind of clan mentality they have. It's just instead of running books and operating on an organised crime level, they rob old people.

SaucyJane · 12/04/2018 11:02

This is why nice sentiments like Bob13's about being tolerant and understanding just don't work with people like this family.

They contribute fuck-all, but get given somewhere to live/stay (or they just rock up and take it); schooling: healthcare etc. They cost a fortune in terms of policing and criminal court fees (wonder what this thieving turd's funeral will cost the tax payer as he was unemployed and doubtless a heavy police presence will be needed) whilst committing crimes and targeting some of the weakest and most vulnerable in society.

What else should we be doing that song just be abused?

SaucyJane · 12/04/2018 11:04

*won't, not song. This phone is shit!

gluteustothemaximus · 12/04/2018 11:04

I grew up with a huge travelling community. Went to school with lots of them too.

Everyone is/was shit scared of them, including the police.

I was strangled at school by one. Nothing done.
I was bullied by another. Nothing done.
I was sexually assaulted by 3 of them under a subway. Nothing done.

I worked as a waitress. Every Saturday night, big group would come in. Kick off. Get free food. Nothing done. One time a new manager said no. Brick through window next day. Nothing done.

Pretty much everyone we knew either had been conned out of money or knew someone that had. They were untouchable. Above the law.

We lost money. Our neighbours did too. One lady we knew lost thousands.

I have tonnes more stories! But can never talk this way as I’m being stereotypical or racist or something.

You never ever mess with one, or you will be dead. And I’ve seen that too.

This couple has to move. They will get revenge.

lostjanni · 12/04/2018 11:05

Yes @snowagain. I think i'm in love with you, you take the words right out my mouth.
And oh yes fuck off to the poster saying how dare i start a thread.

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Aeroflotgirl · 12/04/2018 11:07

snow said basically what most people feel,but cutting out the flowery language. I don't give stoss that Mr Vincent died committing a crime, he deserved it. Good on Mr Osbourne forstanding up to those thugs.

Aeroflotgirl · 12/04/2018 11:08

Need a bit of commonsense on this thread.

Aeroflotgirl · 12/04/2018 11:10

Exactly, poor Mr Osbourne will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life. Him and his wife are the real victims in this horrid situation.

notacooldad · 12/04/2018 11:10

Let's not forget that their was two POS that went into the house that night, not just Henry Vincent.
How bloody terrifying it must have been for the couple.
Billy Jeeves has not been seen in public since, as far as I am away but his burnt out van has been found.
How anyone can sympathise with the community that is protecting him I will never understand.

Mydoghatesthebath · 12/04/2018 11:10

Yep the lunatics have indeed taken over the asylum. No sense of shame no decency no
Pity and zero empathy. Shown by the family of this yes, scumbag and posters like Elendon on the previous thread.

It’s not fashionable or politically correct now to show anger and disgust at pure evil it’s seen as wrong even apparebtly racist???? Wierd.

It’s people like these posters that contribute to that scumbag being released from jail early for s orevious serious offence that leads to situations like this. Msddness just madness

snowagain · 12/04/2018 11:10

LOL thanks @lostjanni and @aeroflotgirl Smile

Yeah my language is a bit more colourful, but I am just so angry at scumbag families like this who wreck peoples lives, and fucked OFF with the apologists, not only defending them, but also calling people LOONS and nasty people and other shit, for not wanting to hug the criminal filth and feel sorry for them.

notacooldad · 12/04/2018 11:13

Sorry grammar police for the incorrectly using 'their' meant to say something else but never changed the word!

Mydoghatesthebath · 12/04/2018 11:13

Snow said what 99% of the population think if the phone in this morning on radio 5 live is anything to go by.

snowagain · 12/04/2018 11:14

And yeah I ALSO feel sorry for the VICTIM (Richard,) who will have to not only live with this now, but will be scared to return home because the scumbag's family will be out for his blood.

VILE, putrid scum. They really are. As has been said, it is beyond me how anyone can defend them.

Let's hope someone like this scumbag criminal NEVER EVER EVER attack someone they love and care about. Bet they will change their leftie 'criminal-hugging' views then. Hmm

snowagain · 12/04/2018 11:15

And yeah I ALSO feel sorry for the VICTIM (Richard,) who will have to not only live with this now, but will be scared to return home because the scumbag's family will be out for his blood.

VILE, putrid scum. They really are. As has been said, it is beyond me how anyone can defend them.

Let's hope someone like this scumbag criminal NEVER EVER EVER attack someone the apologists love and care about. Bet they will change their leftie 'criminal-hugging' views then. hmm

Mydoghatesthebath · 12/04/2018 11:15

Snow I was called racist for suggesting the police were terrified of being seen to tackle crime as they are a minority group.

Ffs racist!!! And that poster did it again on this thread. Hopefully my threats to report her will nip shit like this in the bud.

snowagain · 12/04/2018 11:15

Thanks @mydog Blush

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snowagain · 12/04/2018 11:16

Yep @mydog, these people will try any trick in the book to try and discredit people who don't agree with their bizarre leftie views.

Frequency · 12/04/2018 11:18

No-one is apologising or excusing what he did snow he deserved to be punished for his crimes but we don't have the death sentence in this country and I for one am happy with that.

I'm not pleased the elderly couple have been driven out of their home. I'm not pleased they were targeted by Vincent. I'm not pleased the pensioner will have to live with the consequences of his actions for the rest of his life. I have genuine empathy for them and wish them the best in the future.

I can feel that way while also finding it disgusting that people are joyful over a father losing his life and disturbing that they feel the need to crow about their feelings on the matter on a public forum his wife, mother and children can read. It's sick and the people commenting that way need mental health support.

It is not normal to wish a gruesome death on anyone.

Aeroflotgirl · 12/04/2018 11:18

Love you snow, I despise the lefties hug a criminal apologists. I bet you they wod feel the same, if them and their family were threatened.

BertrandRussell · 12/04/2018 11:20

“As has been said, it is beyond me how anyone can defend them.”

Beyond me too. Who is?

Aeroflotgirl · 12/04/2018 11:20

They have to understand that comes as part of the course of a life of crimeFrequency. Yes it is a public forum, not a censorship!

BertrandRussell · 12/04/2018 11:20

“I despise the lefties hug a criminal apologists.”

Name and shame.