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Dogs. Everywhere

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monkeysox · 10/04/2018 20:51

Loads of shops, bars and restaurants are now allowing dogs in them.
I'm very allergic and one of my dc is too.
It's so widespread now. Such little thought for those with allergies.
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ChardonnaysPrettySister · 12/04/2018 23:13

I’m such a naughty girl for having dogs, Harold.

FrancisCrawford · 12/04/2018 23:16

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celticprincess · 12/04/2018 23:19

Blurry I am trying to teach my child about dog behaviour, however reasoning with a petrified 5 year old is quite tricky. We take her to visit family who have dogs and she spends the entire time sidling away from them. It’s wirse when we arrive and they jump and sniff out of curiosity and she has realised they do settle but she just doesn’t trust them yet. In the short space of meeting a dog on public she only get the excited jumpy sniffy licky side shown to her. The only dog she’s ever liked it public was a huge Rottweiler who was with a family, kept on a lead and who didn’t move too fast. She was younger (about 3) and I was able to carry her a while and we joined the family on their walk as my older child wanted to play with their children. Eventually the younger child was able to walk behind and then next to the dog. But it never jumped and it was all very calm. Family couldn’t believe it when the saw the photos. This was a responsibly dog owning family though. There are lots of them around, who see us coming and quickly put their dog back on it’s lead - they don’t have the dog off miles in front of them and can also spot a scared child far ahead too!! Shame not all dog owners are like this.

Pubs and cafes that have a dedicated dog room are a good idea. There’s a couple near us who do this. Some dog owners don’t like being told to stay in a certain area of the pub however it makes it more pleasant for the rest of the clientele who prefer to eat and drink without dogs.

HaroldsSoCalledBluetits · 12/04/2018 23:20

"naughty girl"? Vom.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 12/04/2018 23:21

I do take full responsibility for having some of the loveliest dogs ever though.

And they only ever lick people who give them biscuits.

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Kimlek · 12/04/2018 23:25

HaroldsSoCalledBluetits throughout this thread you’ve said how disgusting and pointless dogs are and you aren’t even allergic. I don’t think them being in pubs and cafes is your only issue but their mere existence on the planet regardless of how well behaved they are.

TattyTShirt · 12/04/2018 23:34

*I do take full responsibility for having some of the loveliest dogs ever though.

And they only ever lick people who give them biscuits.*

Exactly this! I work bloody hard to train my dogs not to approach others as I am fully aware that not everyone likes dogs.

But it seems because I am a dog owner, regardless of how well behaved my dogs are, and regardless that they are invited into venues that are dog friendly, I have to kow tow to those who have a hysterical fit when they see a dog because their poor little Jimmy has been brought up to have a phobia about all dogs or because someone is allergic to them.

Sorry! My dogs will sit quietly at my feet in all social settings. If anyone has a problem with my dog settling quietly at my feet they are free to move. Why the fuck should I move? It's the same distance apart we'll be sitting.

Some people want the penny and the bun. If I'm uncomfortable with any situation I'll move. I don't see the problem.

If people really have a problem I entering a venue where dogs are welcome... go elsewhere, where dogs are not welcome. It's not fucking hard! Really!

blurryeyedbeast · 12/04/2018 23:47

Celtic sounds like you're doing a great job and that's a nice story. I 've had encounters with a few fearful people who I've said similar things to and mostly get an affirmative reaction and are interested and know what I mean.

Someone once accused me of victim blaming though ( ) and I told him his child was only a victim of his attitude meaning they were held back from a fulfilling life (he was terrified of dogs and thought they should all be banned and his children were right to be scared of all of them).

austenozzy · 12/04/2018 23:48

I live right by the coast path in cornwall, so it’s dogs central here! Fine by me, I’m a dog owner. The cafe in my village is dog friendly as the owner would be mad not to here, but I sit outside or leave my dog outside as it’s a small cafe and I wouldn’t want the dog getting in the way or upsetting people. She’s often muddy or sandy and I wouldn’t want that everywhere either. The village pub is also dog friendly and she comes in there with me. She’s well known in there and is always fussed by staff, regulars and visitors alike. Never had a problem.

IrisTs · 13/04/2018 07:36

BunsyGirl i would never put anyone who was allergic in danger! I always try to keep to dog friendly places. however The amount of the times someone has tried to use allergies on us just because they dislike dogs or are scared is ridiculous. Point being we should be allowed to take dogs places And I am happy those places exist!

Sunafterstorm · 13/04/2018 07:42

I have a rather lovely dog. However I am not a 'doggy' person and I avoid cafes where 'dogs are welcome'. Bit like children - I love my own dearly but other people's not so much.Wink

GertieMotherwell · 13/04/2018 10:02

I must confess that if I walk into a bar or cafe and see a dog I instantly relax.
To me, it shows the place isn’t pretentious and I know the staff and regular clientele will be friendly.
It’s not unusual for there to be 5 or 6 dogs in our local on a Friday night.

Unfortunately, there’s often pesky kids in there too 😉

Schnauzermum2 · 13/04/2018 10:07

I can understand people’s frustration about allergies, I have a very bad reaction to cigarette smoke so hate having to fight through people puffing on their cancer sticks to gain access to any public building. But from a business perspective many people who stay in the uk for holidays are dog owners, many people like to blend their dog into their daily lives going to the pub, cafe etc. It’s aleays been v similar in rural locations but more people are getting dogs in the city so there’s a business opportunity. But there are lots of beaches in the summer, shops, pubs cafes etc where non assistance dogs are not allowed. Just as a dog owner will research where dogs are allowed if you don’t like dogs research where they’re not. It’s simple. Anyone who think the rest of the world should be run to their idea of perfection needs their head looking at.

TattyTShirt · 13/04/2018 10:50

Pubs and cafes that have a dedicated dog room are a good idea. There’s a couple near us who do this. Some dog owners don’t like being told to stay in a certain area of the pub however it makes it more pleasant for the rest of the clientele who prefer to eat and drink without dogs.

That's exactly the set up in any dog friendly establishment I've ever been in. Usually in a pub the restaurant and lounge areas are dog free. Dogs are allowed in the bar area.

I have no problem eating a carvery in the bar. Why do dog haters choose to sit in the bar and complain there are dogs in there? Go and sit in an area where dogs are not allowed.

Exactly the same in a dog friendly cafe at the beach. Large indoor area where dogs are not allowed. Small conservatory attached where dogs are allowed. If you don't like dogs why sit in the conservatory and complain that a dog lying quietly, leashes, at his owners feet is looking at You? Even worse use the dog to get your child to sit down and eat his dinner - "Come and sit here and eat your dinner Jimmy. That dog is looking at your chips. He will eat them now if you don't come here. Pathetic!

Pinklady1982 · 13/04/2018 12:55

I completely understand op... one time I was with my dd at a seaside resort and she was only about 3, and was going through a phase of really worrying around dogs and would shake and cry and not let them anywhere near her. She was sitting really nicely eating her food in this restaurant, when a family with two dogs came in a sat at the table next to us. Straight away she started to get upset and worried and climbing on me to getvas far away from them as possible. I tried my hardest to calm her down but she wouldn’t sit back down to eat or stop shaking. There were loads of other tables, and as they hadn’t ordered yet I politely asked if they would mind going to another table as dd was scared of dogs at the moment, and they were so rude and refused to move. I ended up having to move us and our food (which wasn’t easy carrying my dd as she wouldn’t go down) to another table. I get they were welcome there, but some owners just have no consideration for others. I also have allergies so wasn’t ideal for me in that respect either, but I would have put up with it if dd was ok!

Pinklady1982 · 13/04/2018 13:05

Just to add as I may get blasted for asking someone to move, but I genuinely asked in the nicest possible way, and although I know they shouldn’t have to, you would think it would be a reasonable solution...I have always tried to get dd to be ok around dogs, but you can’t force them to not be scared. Their imaginations run wild, and you have no idea what goes on in their little minds...

Thehappygardener · 13/04/2018 13:42

Where in the world are all these pubs, cafes and shops that welcome dogs? We have had a well trained, happy, smallish dog (10 kilos) for two years and I am amazed at the number of businesses that seem to hate dogs. Our dog gets in well with anyone, we fully appreciate that lots if people don’t like dog, and some may be allergic and we don’t take him where he isn’t wanted but in the UK I think that the majority of businesses don’t allow dogs even into one small area if their pub or similar. as I can

Thehappygardener · 13/04/2018 13:47

Posted too soon ..... my post should have read:

Where in the world are all these pubs, cafes and shops that welcome dogs? We have had a well trained, happy, smallish dog (10 kilos) for two years and I am amazed at the number of businesses that seem to hate dogs.

Our dog gets on well with anyone, we fully appreciate that lots of people don’t like dogs, or are phobic, and some may be allergic so we don’t take him where he isn’t wanted. I think that in the UK that the majority of businesses don’t allow dogs even into one small area of their pub or similar. Other countries seem to be more relaxed to the benefit of everyone. 🌺

jasjas1973 · 13/04/2018 13:53

Most pubs in Cornwall let in dogs and tbh most owners keep them under control very well but why have a dog and then take to a place that only an old worn out dog would like?

Dogs like doing doggy things, they ve limitless energy and want to be outside chasing things, walking, bounding about not stuck under a table trying to be well behaved as their owners get wasted, makes me sad that so many think folk think its responsible to sit a dog in a pub for hours on end.

I had a dog many moons ago, a Border terrier x Collie and never did i take it to a pub/cafe, she went outside to beaches, woodland & fields... it died of cancer aged 10 and it broke my heart, prob why i ve never got another one.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 13/04/2018 13:58

I would disagree about what dogs like. Every single dog has their own temperament.

Mine love going to pubs or cafes. Absolutely adore it. It’s up there with chasing squirrels and rolling in mud.

jasjas1973 · 13/04/2018 14:11

True, vast majority then, but i m sure you get my point, same with kids in the pub... park/swimming pool or pub..... mmmmmm

mytitshaveshrunk · 13/04/2018 16:48

I adore dogs but this really pisses me off. A pub local to me started a competition yesterday to get people to take photos of their dogs in the pub "enjoying their visit". As examples they had photos of dogs sitting on chairs and some with the front paws on the tables. This is a gastropub - WTAF! Dogs' paws and food do not mix. You wouldn't want humans to put their feet on the chairs or tables, why the fuck would anyone think it's acceptable for dogs to do this???!!!

agedknees · 13/04/2018 16:55

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Teacher22 · 13/04/2018 17:12

I do not dislike dogs per se but there are too many of them and they encroach on public life far too much. I am allergic to them (they give me asthma and if they touch me it brings me out in angry red swellings) and am appalled by dog dirt.

One of my favourite National Trust places, Cliveden, has just started a consultation period of six moths to allow dogs, who are already permitted in the woodland, to be allowed into some of the formal gardens on leads. Already the boundaries are being pushed and I have seen dogs off leads, balls being thrown for dogs and dog dirt on a grass path where toddlers were walking. It will be a deleterious encroachment in beautiful, peaceful, formal gardens and totally inappropriate. I am writing as if, when the consultation period is over, dogs will automatically be permitted as I am sure that it is merely a formality and that the decision is already made. Two NT officials had their own dogs there yesterday.