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Dogs. Everywhere

556 replies

monkeysox · 10/04/2018 20:51

Loads of shops, bars and restaurants are now allowing dogs in them.
I'm very allergic and one of my dc is too.
It's so widespread now. Such little thought for those with allergies.
Aibu

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Teeniemiff · 12/04/2018 20:55

I wouldn’t like this as I’m not keen on dogs. Husband is allergic & our daughter is petrified.
I don’t think you can really compare dogs to say flowers on a table, you don’t have to touch the flowers (they could be moved out the way) but sometimes a dog might come up to you, jump up, lick, slobber. Not nice really if you’re eating your tea.

I appreciate guide dogs are an exception & if there is a guide dog then either leave or put up with it.

IrisTs · 12/04/2018 20:55

Wow a good thread but seriously some people just have to get over themselves. TattyTshirt exactly just because you are allergic to something, it doesn't mean it has to be gotten rid off! I own 2 dogs. I'm glad more places allow dogs in. When we want to spend a whole day out we can do that as we can take the dogs with us rather than leaving them at home, which is not fair on them. I hate people bitching uh oh I don't like dogs, I'm allergic... Bla bla. I get it! But soon we are going to ban kids from places because people don't like kids either... Get over yourselves.

BunsyGirl · 12/04/2018 21:09

IrisTs...again you’re so wound up in yourself that you can’t see it from anyone else’s perspective. All I’m asking for is understanding and not to take it as a personal insult if I ask you to keep your dog away. A dog touching me on my clothes can result in an allergic reaction on my skin which then starts an asthma attack. It’s not a joke. It’s a serious medical condition. I am not asking for animals to be banned. I avoid hotels, pubs etc that allow dogs. I can’t avoid service animals but they are not a huge number of those about which reduces the problem. A blind man once sat next to me on the train and his dog sat on my feet. He couldn’t understand why I asked to get out of my seat and move away. I couldn’t get out as I was blocked in by the dog. A very kind lady intervened and encouraged the dog to move so that I could get out. She had empathy, why can’t you. And the comparison with kids is frankly ridiculous. No one is allergic to kids.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 12/04/2018 21:26

sometimes a dog might come up to you, jump up, lick, slobber.

Why would a dog lick a random person though?

This comes up time and time again. Dogs don't go round licking people.

FreudianSlurp · 12/04/2018 21:39

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Sparklycurtainpole · 12/04/2018 21:44

Thanks freudianslurp. I knew they weren’t trained in the same way but I didn’t realise they could be held accountable.

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MrsTylerJoseph · 12/04/2018 21:55

There’s actually lots of shops in London I believe you can take dogs in including Selfridges!

FrancisCrawford · 12/04/2018 21:57

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celticprincess · 12/04/2018 22:21

My big issue with digs is my youngest is petrified and actually makes matters worse with her jumping and squealing when they bound over to her. Usually owners miles away shouting ‘he’s friendly he won’t harm you!’ Try telling that to the 5 year old knocked off her feet on her own front garden that the dog seems to think it has every right to join her on!!! I’m not against dog owners letting them off leads but near people’s houses where children play out and cars are often reversing - oh yes I’ve nearly knocked a few on the same driveway/garden area due to them running ahead no sign of their owners.

I try to avoid places that let you take them into. Not a fan of dogs in pubs and cafes trying to sniff around my food and start the hysterics with said child.

I’m also allergic to dogs, cats, pollen, dust etc so always have antihistamines on me. Often visit friends with pets and have to dose up, in triplicate for cats with pills, nasal spray and eye drops. Nightmare when I have the wrong bag and call in unexpectedly on people or don’t realise their pet situation til I’m there. My problem though not theirs.

Teeniemiff · 12/04/2018 22:23

I’ve been licked by many dogs I hve not welcomed. Maybe they’re not trained as well? But it’s happened. I’ve also had dogs jump up me.

HaroldsSoCalledBluetits · 12/04/2018 22:32

I think dog owners are massively missing the point when they say things like "oh well I'm allergic to sun/pollen etc but I can't stop these things from being around so you should just suck it up" - that's exactly it. Pollen, sunshine etc are unavoidable natural phenomena. A dog in a cafe or a shop or a plane is not. It's a problem that you, as a dog owner, have created. Take some responsibility for your actions.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 12/04/2018 22:37

Don’t be silly Harold.

None of us dog owner have created anything. Dogs have been around humafor millions of years.

If you don’t like it then tough.

farfallarocks · 12/04/2018 22:40

Dog owners, please don’t let your dogs jump up
And lick and ladder my tights! Scare my kids and eat my food😃 seems to be an epidemic of badly behaved dogs at the moment. I like dogs but feel ill when I see them
Licking dishes in the dishwasher.

HaroldsSoCalledBluetits · 12/04/2018 22:40

The above comment typifies the attitude entirely. People are telling you that what you are doing - which is neither necessary nor unavoidable - is problematic. Your response is hostile refusal to alter your behaviour.

HaroldsSoCalledBluetits · 12/04/2018 22:42

Reminds me of what was the smoking argument. Again, a behaviour that is unpleasant and has consequences to others' health was for years defended solely on the grounds of "I want to". It's antisocial regressive thinking.

FrancisCrawford · 12/04/2018 22:43

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blurryeyedbeast · 12/04/2018 22:46

Dogs don't go round licking people.
Mine is super-friendly and wants to go say hello to anybody we encounter should I let her.

I understand some people don't like dogs and I never assume people do. However, for kids who are terrified, I have had this conversation with a friend with a dog-fearing child and what I said to him was, It's the best plan to try to teach children about dogs. A child screaming and making noise because it's frightened, to a dog, looks like 'wants to play'. A child running away from a dog, dog thinks 'Wants to be chased'. A frightened child should be taught how dogs think, and dog body language. A dog romping up to you, tongue out 'smiling' is not a dog about to eat you. A dog with 'shoulders up' snarling, is.

Also dogs can sense fear and it makes them nervous. A scared child just makes a (non-aggressive 'normal' dog) think there's something to be scared OF. And there's no time they're more likely to do something untoward then when they're scared.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 12/04/2018 22:51

What am a doing that’s problematic? Owning a dog that’s perfectly well behaved?

If that was problematic there would be laws against dog ownership.

Sorry you have an allergy and hate digs, but that’s for you to deal with.

Good luck!

HaroldsSoCalledBluetits · 12/04/2018 22:51

Again with the refusal to take responsibility for your actions, Francis.

HaroldsSoCalledBluetits · 12/04/2018 22:53

Chardonnay throughout the twenty pages of this discussion, people have told you how your behaviour is problematic.

Allmyshilldren · 12/04/2018 22:56

There are some very unreasonable perspectives on both sides of this debate.

The allergies are not the fault of the allergic or the allergen (dogs, in this case). It must be awful for the OP and others affected. But dog allergies so profound as to cause a severe asthma attack or anaphylaxis are quite rare I would have thought.

As a dog owner I feel it would mostly be quite easy to avoid dogs and the onus would be on the allergic to move away from a dog in a place where dogs are welcome. In circumstances where that wasn’t possible I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the dog owner to be considerate and move their dog away if necessary.

TattyTShirt · 12/04/2018 22:57

unsyGirl

TattyTShirt... because the safest thing for me would be for you to sit at one end with your dog and for me to sit at the other. I don’t think I need to say anymore on the subject, you have shown everyone the kind of person that you. Completely selfish with no consideration for others.

If you have a problem You're free to move. Nobody's stopping You!

If I was sat next a screeching child on a flight I'd move... what's the problem with that?

FrancisCrawford · 12/04/2018 23:08

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