To ask all Irish women to please show solidarity today?

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Please join the rallies in support of the victim in belfast today,theres rallies in Dublin belfast and cork. Enough is enough and we can not take this one lying down. Show support to the brave young woman and lets not have this trial be in vain.
Something has to change.

however, the Watsap messages that they sent the following day aren't open to question, they've admitted sending vile, myisognistic messages about her in open court, after the messages were found on their phones. On the basis of these massages alone, I don't think that they are fit to wear an Irish jersey again

Absolutely this. I don't want these arseholes representing my country, ever. The petition is about getting that view heard.

Yep. Regardless of whether they raped her or not they treated her like a dehumanised piece of meat. Young boys look up to sports stars. They shouldn’t be sent the message that treating women like that is okay.

Nice victim blaming there Lichtie, bloody hell.

Lichtie If these women don't respect themselves why will the men they throw themselves at.

I have seen occasions when some women have been in right states, drunk and throwing themselves at people. And they’ve been put in taxis or put to bed or taken home or brought back to their friends by men. On occasion in my youth I’m pretty sure that woman was me too.

Most men are perfectly capable of controlling themselves and not taking advantage of women who are vulnerable even if they are consenting.

Mightymucks... I'm pretty sure they never meant for what happened or their messages to become public. If all adults are consenting it's really nobody's business what they do in private if its legal.

*incapable

Idontdowindows. I'm not blaming anyone. And what victim? Nice assumption of guilt.

There have been international stars caught with prostitutes, convicted of drink driving, caught taking drugs, convicted of beating their wives and much more.

I don't think that the fact that we've put up with things we shouldn't have in the past is an excuse to continue to tolerate shit. We used to tolerate nuns dumping the bodies of babies they'd starved to death in septic tanks and priest to move parish after they'd raped children but we've moved on from that.

We can move on from this too. We can teach a whole generation of boys that if you talk about a woman in this way, you lose the respect of the country and never wear an Ireland jersey again. Is that a bad thing?

You're an MRA lichtie, getting your jollies from saying vile things about rape victims.

Have a good life.

I for one are bringing my two sons up to respect women. If, when they're older they meet a pissed up woman, in a short skirt etc etc they will realise that she's not 'asking for it' but respectfully help her home/to her friends.

The NI case is horrendous the things they tweeted are obscene and they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. If they were in my circle of friends I'd be educating them before ostracising them.

Starstruck, fame hungry and money hungry are not the same as being incapable.

Being dicks comes with the egos that some women give them.

If these women don't respect themselves why will the men they throw themselves at.

Jesus wept, I haven't heard such woman hating bullshit on here for a while. So men act like gigantic arseholes and it's all women's fault.

DFOD

Do you know how you're coming across, @Lichtie some of the things you're saying are absolutely vile. Decent men don't take advantage of a woman who is drunk. And there is definitely something wrong when a young woman is left to make her way home alone, distressed and bleeding. Not okay.

If they were in my circle of friends I'd be educating them before ostracising them.

I suppose that would work if you thought that 'don't talk about women like this, after you've left them bleeding and sobbing', was an esoteric piece of knowledge that could, reasonably, have gone over a man's head, like no 'no sports socks with shoes' or 'cut your jacket pockets before you wear it for the first time'.

Still Screaming

This re Nuns and Priests

Can't help wondering if #SueMePaddy will ever manage to have sex again, now that every woman he's ever had sex with knows that all details were shared with his mates, and she was described as a brasser and a slut and the state of her vagina discussed.

I don't think that the fact that we've put up with things we shouldn't have in the past is an excuse to continue to tolerate shit.

^^This

Madhouse... She will never officially be named without her consent, but it's almost impossible to stop people getting named. Someone always knows who the person is and social media is so easy to create false profiles or just to mention it.

The fact that she was referred too in court by her name, repeatedly, rather than by Miss A or whatever, has made it absolutely inevitable that her identity would get out.

And what victim?

The prosecutor's office were confident they had a case.

A minuscule number of reported rapes ever gets to the point where a rapist will be charged and a case will go to trial. Those that do are considered the most robust cases, where there is a very clear victim. This woman had a laceration to her vagina by the time the night was over, and "no jokes" she was "in hysterics, wasn't going to end well."

Juries have been wrong in the past and they will be wrong in the future. They were wrong this time.

I'm guessing no-one was in the room or at the trial.
But out of interest , has any read the Court Transcripts?

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This is truly galling:
www.london-irish.com/news/irish-flyhalf-signs-for-london-irish/bp2166/

If you want to make some noise the London Irish sponsors are listed here:
www.london-irish.com/sponsorship/sponsors-and-partners/54/

The #ibelieveher hashtag is laying into London Irish Rugby Club for this, and rightly so.