To wish that going for a first trimester abortion was seen like have a tooth out?

[QueenArseClangers]

Without all the societal guilt and judgement heaped upon women?
I really wished it was viewed as a bog standard procedure, I’m sure women would feel a lot more in control of their reproductive health if it was.

but it's not the same is it? your not doing something to your own body (not much anyway) opening up the cervix or changing the womb lining. what your really doing is killing a future human.
should a woman be judged? we are probably harder on ourselves than others.
education education education is always needed because abortion should not be a form of birth control.

no you are ending a pregnancy - every egg is a potential future human - stop being silly

abortion can not be birth control - birth control prevents conception

education wouldnt remove womens need for abortion

I feel a bit embarrassed for people saying "abortion shouldn't be used as contraception". She's already pregnant - therefore nothing she can use could be considered contraception.

Also you can use as much provocative emotive language like "tiny tiny" and "killing" as much as you like, doesn't mean that it IS 'killing' anyone (it isn't BTW).

YABU.
ppl should be more acknowledging that its ending a life (unwanted or otherwise).
"it's not a big deal"....really? Then why do we console miscarriages....but not abortions? The only difference to the loss it whether it was wanted, in both miscarriage and abortion it's the loss of life.

Then why do we console miscarriages....but not abortions?

Because it is about the woman and what she wanted. And many people do mourn abortions. It's not ending a life. 🙄 and no it's not a big deal.

Here's some free advice - do t agree with abortions? Don't have one.

You're welcome

'life'? it isn't viable life - the woman's life is so - you know - top trumps and all that

but if you think it's a life you don't ever have to terminate - and that, wonderfully and legally, is YOUR choice

other people choose differently - and that is their choice and not your business

I;ve had 5 MC and I was sad about each one because they were planned, wanted and I had a dream about the future with them - but none of them were alive - except in my head

It's not ending a life

Does this theory come with a #nodebate?

no it comes from facts - you know 8 weeks - not viable outside of MY womb ergo - not viable

it's a personal choice. but it is ending a life.

Perhaps I might be persuaded of someone could say why a foetus under 13 weeks is, always, in anyone, a life?

well if it's ending life surely it would be illegal

it's ending potential life that can NOT exist without an sentient human being making a choice for that to happen and thankfully that fully functioning existing human takes precident

just because the tiny person is unable to live outside your body yet does not make it any less a life. and if you think that, you are just deluding yourself.

Oh yawn with the emotive language ("tiny person" 🙄). Why is it a life Ive? Why do you think you can dictate the status of something in another woman's body?

it's not a tiny person - I am a tiny person at 5ft 1" - it is a potential person reliant on another person - who thankfully has a lovely legal option - at least in England, to not continue to be an incubator

Nope. The op is fine. Anyone with an ounce of empathy snd sense will understand what she was saying.

The real problem in this thread is the posters who want to forced women to give birth.

Sure you try and dress it up in the guise that

‘Women are hormonal and regret abortions’
‘Women don’t understand the trauma abortion can cause’

‘Men have a say’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

‘Life begins at conceptuon’

Blah blah fucking blah!!

You basically want to control other women’s bodies but that sounds wierd, because it is, so you dress your control up into concern!

Well fuck off! No concern of yours and if you are men posting fuck off and if you are women

Shame on you Shame on you.

ghosty

it was illegal for ages...
the laws have changed for a variety of reasons which are valid but the reason it is a big deal, the reason some health care practitioners don't assist in the procedures, the reason there is controversy is because it is killing a potential life.

cheers mydog - loving your post - I am so sick to the back teeth of the idea that we should all agree with this silly idea that the moment of conception makes the egg - our monthly period that no one cries over suddenly becomes an actual human

such emotive bullshit

again - if you think it's a 'tiny human' don't have a termination ever - job done

but you don't get to tell other women what to do

some being the point - some - the tiny percentage who share your view but obviously most do not

I have assisted at abortions as a very young nurse back in the day and at much wanted births.

The difference isn’t about the health care professional? By that do you mean s nurse? Doc? If so say so it’s annoying.

The difference is the patient as In mum has decided what’s right for her and as nurses/docs we support her

What’s your point?

Totally agree ghosty spot on

ppl should be more acknowledging that its ending a life (unwanted or otherwise).
Do you feel the same way about other parasites?

I am not against abortion in the slightest. If it’s the right choice for you, then that’s your business. But it’s not the same as having a tooth out? It’s a procedure that takes a lot of thought. Not a medical necessity.