AIBU or are we all going to be trapped in the UK from next March?

[Clarissalarissa]

So, Ryanair and Thomas Cook are inserting clauses in their booking terms to say that if your flight abroad doesn't go ahead because of Brexit that's your problem. No doubt others will follow. If any deal is ever done, to allow planes to fly, it is bound to be a lot more expensive than it is now.

Is everyone planning many years of UK-only holidaying?

I’m not as knowledgable as many on this thread but my feeling is it will be a total nightmare and then we will navigate our way through it eventually. I suspect it’s going to be very hard times for many countries around the world so I think we will end up in good company.

@Bishop yes it did .
We enjoyed our stay in a hotel that is well known to be full of Spanish holidaymakers. You’re too quick to presume .

Oh good grief, project fear strikes again.

Lot of leave bashers on mumsnet. Must be liberals who also hate the old white men with the same passion as their leader
I could say “I’m not racist” but I couldn’t give two hoots what remain voters think about me. There was a very democratic vote and us that voted leave added up to more than those that voted stay.
Don’t doubt my intelligence, and ffs stop doubting your country. We need to move forward United in the goal of improving the future for our next generation with the tools we have . Stop MOANING and you’ll loose that stupid tag

Stop posting like a thickie and you'll lose the tag.

I'm not uniting with you.

JedJim 'So if leaving the EU was going to be such a disaster then why give a referendum?'
Answers: because Cameron thought 'Remain' would win. Because the Conservatives thought they could win back their voters from UKIP. Because people didnt like Cameron. Because no-one, not even the 'experts' could truly grasp what it could actually mean (no one still really knows as this thread has proved). Because people who voted 'leave' thought the NHS would get an extra £350million a week of British workers hard earned money rather than it being taken from us to use on other countries in the EU. Because they don't like lots of Polish communities springing up. Because it was 'better in the old days' (cos we all know that).

It is a mess.

Thickie? Really , it’s all over the news . From Tony Blair to Vince Cable . It is a daily insult from these people focused on stopping or reversing the vote. As I said I don’t care to have to declare my level of intellect or my political view regards different nationality’s . It’s not the issue . It won’t bring about a new referendum and it won’t move us forward.

I’ll be damned 18 million people were totally wrong to vote leave them!! Some of them were business people and MPs, not just Johnson and Gove etc etc.
The Bank of England prepared for a leave vote and had emergency procedures in place. The UK won’t fail post Brexit simply because it would be far too costly if it did. Teresa May could have took her pension and retired to the Bahamas, she’s staying to get us the best deal. She must know something or she would have gone ages ago and took the easy option.

So odd, single.
On my holidays in Europe I have been accommodated next to Irish, Dutch, French, Italian, Hungarian and Spanish tourists. I'm sure there are more that I wasn't aware of, those are the nationalities I chatted to.

Benidorm isn't just for British holidaymakers. A German friend went there last August.

BTW they are the very reasons (I listed above) that my older relatives have given me to vote leave. No one my age or younger voted leave. The thicker and older you are, the more likely it is you voted leave. Google 'less educated people voted Brexit' and multiple sources from multiple dates come to the same conclusion.

Phew! What a relief - I only had to scroll through 9 replies until somebody used the - oh so witty - 'remoaners'
The government's own report says that we'll all be worse off financially in any one of 15 different Brexit scenarios. Perhaps you won't be so smug when it starts hitting you in your pocket.

Hello! Cameron won the 2015 election on the premise we’d get an in/ out referendum. The only party to do it. 12 months later we got one and voted leave. I know Cameron didn’t bank on a leave vote. The 350 million a week could be spent on the NHS but werystill in the EU in case you haven’t noticed and still paying them, so how can that money be spent on the NHS now?
Also you do know that Farage isn’t even a member of Parliament and never has been? He was never on a possition to make decisions for the country regardless.

Actually I acknowledge this shitstorm will happen regardless of what I think. I'm seriously pissed that our elected representatives are doing sweet FA to protect the country, and are so gleeful about repealing employment and human rights.

I also know our money means bugger all in the international marketplace. We're nothing. We import pretty much everything and export practically nothing. We don't have any clout whatsoever in trading terms.

There's a belief amongst leave voters that we're somehow amazing and that others will bow down before us. Not going to happen.

Some people will make a great deal of money out of Brexit, it isn't for the most part going to be the communities that voted for it.
It isn't possible to say that the UK won't fail after Brexit. I'm not expecting it to turn overnight into Venezuela but I haven't seen any financial data that doesn't suggest we won't be poorer doing it than not, including what the government is producing.
I see no gains for doing it and have no interest in making it a success. The 18 million who wanted it can do that.

See bishop you probably just want to argue with me by the looks of it. I didn’t intimate that Benidorm relies solely on the British , in fact I said I was in a hotel expressly used by the Spanish themselves .

Good example of the 'we're amazing' mindset displayed when negotiations began, tbh. It's why negotiations keep stalling, the Irish Border issue isn't the first stop to proceedings. It's because some want their cake and eat it.

singledadstu Benidorm and the Spanish mainland and islands, are a popular tourist destination for people of many different nationalities. Brexit is not going to kill the Spanish economy.

This thread is proof that this won't work. 'We need to stand United'.

Nope, that's not going to happen.

Yeah, agreed expat. Not a snowball's chance in hell

Locked out, you’re right . I should have said something more accurate such as the Spanish economy is great , they don’t owe the EU any money at all and us British being banned from a very welcoming country won’t inflict any negative financial implications.

Do you ever wonder how many people would flock to Benidorm if they were assured it wouldn't be heaving with Brits?

Lol

We should all go to Morecambe.

Math, yes I did wonder that too. I thought (somewhat too seriously) that some other warm area in the EU would see a drop in holiday makers from European families. Just rearranged the deck chairs. On thé up side I thought similar to the post above but I thought about Rhyl in Wales appreciating more British visitors simply because I used to enjoy a holiday there when I was younger before it turned into a ghetto

Clarissa you are claiming insider knowledge but have been unable to share any trade trends that actually substantiate your claims.
I'd definitely find it interesting to read the reports that you're referencing since my local network of UK tourist accommodation providers reported a strong 2017. Plus the Tourism Alliance is predicting the UK tourism sector will need to recruit an
additional 1.3m more staff by the end of 2024. The Office of National Statistics said that although there was a slight dip in travel numbers from 2016 to 2017, the tourism spend on average and in total had increased in 2017. And ABTA also said 2017 was a strong year and they predicted growth for 2018. Hence why I'm curious about your source and wondering why their predictions differ so much from all the other industry authorities.
YY securing flight paths is a concern, as are visas. But if you work in the industry you will know that visa-tourists spend more than non-visa tourists; that there has been an increase in tourism from visa countries; and that the UK tourism spend is of much more import to the EU than vice versa.

Rhyl a ghetto?
Who knew? In what way? Please tell.