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AIBU?

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AIBU or are we all going to be trapped in the UK from next March?

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Clarissalarissa · 11/03/2018 15:23

So, Ryanair and Thomas Cook are inserting clauses in their booking terms to say that if your flight abroad doesn't go ahead because of Brexit that's your problem. No doubt others will follow. If any deal is ever done, to allow planes to fly, it is bound to be a lot more expensive than it is now.

Is everyone planning many years of UK-only holidaying?

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RaindropsAndSparkles · 11/03/2018 21:40

The UK wasn't in the EU until 1974(?), when I was anout 14. My family went to France, Italy, Holland, Switzerland, Spain as well as America in the 60s and 70s. Wasn't a problem then.

kerryweaverscrutch · 11/03/2018 21:40

Ryanair have inserted a clause as another reason not to pay compensation as they hate the EU rules for this in any case

That doesn't make any sense: once you are out of the EU the eu compensation rules won't apply anyway.

No, they have inserted the clause because it would be insane not to. All it actually says is "we don't know what will happen after Brexit so we can't promise anyone anything"...which is entirely true.

kerryweaverscrutch · 11/03/2018 21:41

Who're the winners & who're the losers in that situation????

all the people who don't want to have to stay in the UK?

TalkinPeace · 11/03/2018 21:43

Walkingdeadfangirl
If there is some turbulence leaving the EU then its a price worth paying to leave.
What are the positive gains you personally expect to see from Brexit?
In what way will it positively impact your day to day life?

Sheasksmehowthecatsbeen · 11/03/2018 21:44

I'd consider myself a loser on that position. I won't be able to travel and I imagine UK prices will soar as businesses put their prices up due to increased demand and lack of supply. So, I won't be able to even sit on a beach in the pissing rain eating my chips in August. Again, can't wait.

Sheasksmehowthecatsbeen · 11/03/2018 21:45

^ *travel abroad

Talkstotrees · 11/03/2018 21:47

Bangs

Head

Against

Wall

(I’m off - keep up the good work trying to educate folks. You have far more patience than I)

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/03/2018 21:51

We were discussing potential places we could drive to from the tunnel to go camping next year

You may want to think again. Your UK licences are likely to not be valid in the EU...

SisterFrancisBeaverhausen · 11/03/2018 21:54

We are very much thinking again. Which is awkward given that dh is French and his family are in Brittany...

SisterFrancisBeaverhausen · 11/03/2018 21:55

(He swapped his French license for a British one years ago. Of course he has his French passport but the dcs and I don’t)

LineyOfArabia · 11/03/2018 21:58

You when you wonder about, just who ...? And you then read threads like this. Bloody hell.

LineyOfArabia · 11/03/2018 21:59

You know

Walkingdeadfangirl · 11/03/2018 22:01

What are the positive gains you personally expect to see from Brexit?
Well the first thing I am looking forward to is directly electing a politician who will form part of the parliament that will decide everything about our country. Have never liked the slow march into an Brussels superstate. I think that is worth a hell of a lot of 'turbulence'.

I look forward to be more of a global country rather than being constrained within the EU. I look forward to feeling British again rather than an EUropean. I look forward to not being able to 'blame' everything on the EU and the buck stopping in London. I look forward to the end to the division of in or out (hopefully for the next forty years). I look forward to the expectation that UK citizens will have to do all the jobs (good and bad) rather than importing people just because we cant be bothered training or paying them.

I get it will take time to actually see all the tangible results but I will be pleased that we will be independent again.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 11/03/2018 22:03

The reality will be that Brexit won’t be a price worth paying. When brexiteers are faced with more expensive holidays, more paperwork and other technical inconveniences as sure night follows day they will be screaming about the injustices of it all. In letters pages of the daily mail, on the vox pop news items and on social media.

kerryweaverscrutch · 11/03/2018 22:04

Well the first thing I am looking forward to is directly electing a politician who will form part of the parliament that will decide everything about our country

do you mean precisely as you've always done?

I look forward to feeling British again rather than an EUropean

How you felt was always your own affair. You chose to feel European and then complained about it? Why?

None of this makes sense.

SisterFrancisBeaverhausen · 11/03/2018 22:05

And what happens when no one actually applies for those jobs? And you are aware that MEPs are elected right?

MinnieMousse · 11/03/2018 22:06

This thread is almost as frustrating as Brexit itself. OP raises an issue which the negotiations have so far failed to deal with. Brexit fans pile on to say everything will be fine just as it was in the good ol days. Other posters come on and explain in more detail how exactly the conditions of travel have changed while we've been members of the EU and why exactly there will be a problem if the issue is not dealt with. After pages of this, someone still comes on and says it will all be fine because they had a lovely holiday in Spain in 1974. Arrrrgh!!

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 11/03/2018 22:06

Ive always felt British

how does one feel european?

Sharperthanasharpie · 11/03/2018 22:07

All we have to look forward to is becoming more insular and irrelevant, lower standards and increasing inequality. Oh, and blue passports. Yippee.

ilovesooty · 11/03/2018 22:08

Brittany Benidorm is not the whole of Spain. Are you taking the piss?

Sharperthanasharpie · 11/03/2018 22:08

The only people that piled blame on the EU were people who wanted out of it. I'm sure they will find someone else to blame.

Ninoo25 · 11/03/2018 22:16

I’m always surprised on threads like this to find out how many people don’t understand the meaning of being an independent country (we already are btw). In fact, over the past 100 years we’re one of the main places in the world that other countries have sought independence FROM!!!!

Prometheus · 11/03/2018 22:17

I've not RTFT because I simply can't be bothered to read comments like 'they need us more than we need them' but this is actually an area I used to work in. Its all about the EU Open Skies agreement (Google it) and something called cabotage (Google it) which affects airlines that want to pick up passengers in a country that isn't the airline's registered country and fly to a third country. If you've studied EU politics it's something you learn in the first year of your degree. Basic stuff really but yet another thing that Vote Remain was labelled as project fear for highlighting during the referendum & that the newspapers didn't bother to report as it was far too high level for poor little voters to understand.

whirlygirly · 11/03/2018 22:19

I just find the whole thing terrifying and depressing. As does virtually every sane person I know.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 11/03/2018 22:20

My dad said the other day that he would be glad when we left as we never got a say and had to do everything the EU said

And i said that i thought we were one of the big players in the EU, deffo top three, and that we helped make the rules etc

He was trapped between agreeing that as a country we are awesome and saying that the EU were bullying and made us do stuff we didnt want to do