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DH forces me to get a driver's license

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hairdressserintown · 09/03/2018 13:02

DH and I have always wanted to buy a house on the countryside.

He has however recently started demanding that I get a driver's license before we proceed on the plans, so I can take DC to and from school, as it wouldn't be fair if he was to do all the school runs. Tbh this has never crossed my mind as I and DC get around fine on the bus or cycling. They are not in school yet though so dunno how it will be and I do work full time.

I'm terrified of the thought of driving a car and he knows this. It never appealed to me. Although never diagnosed, I also struggle with simple things in my day to day life, such as telling left/right apart, telling the clock, etc. I also get very easily confused and cannot follow a lot of simple , especially verbal and visual instructions. I need a lot of things in text for it to make sense in my head. It seems so dumb but I dread the thought of driving a car with my DC and potentially putting them at risk.

He says I am selfish for not even giving it a try and refuses to talk about moving until I get it sorted. AIBU?

OP posts:
OldHag1 · 11/03/2018 08:52

You are never going to want to do anything be it driving... being diagnosed with a learning disability or whatever if you feel pressured into it.

The next time he asks you a maths question - to test you whilst knowing that you are struggling to answer - ask him why he is asking you as he knows maths is a weekness of yours as he keeps pointing out you may have a learning disability.

It all sounds like it’s too much to me.

It might be worth looking into your issues as your children may have the same problems. From your description above I was thinking you sounded as though dyscalcula and possibly Dyspraxia were issues (bloody well done riding the bike if Dyspraxia is found to be an issue).

Take one day at a time.

eggncress · 11/03/2018 08:58

I was sole driver for ages and it sucks.I ended up doing everything ... school run,shopping,extra curricular activities, out of hours trips to doctor etc.... as well as working full time. It did feel like a piss take.
I have a friend who is dyslexic and is a driving instructor so it is possible.
If you can’t drive, don’t move to the country because bus services are not as frequent as in town, you won’t be able to cycle on the busy roads with a young child and the travel distances will be greater.
I don’t think your DH is forcing you to drive but he also didn’t want to be forced into doing everything once you move. Maybe stay put for now.

picklemepopcorn · 11/03/2018 09:00

DS1 has dyspraxia and dyslexia, probably ASD. He learned to drive, though it took him a while. After he passed his test he stopped driving, because he didn't like our car. When we inherited an old automatic, he took to it like a duck to water.
It allowed him to get to his first two jobs, and saved h8m a fortune living at home while going to uni.

himalayansalt · 11/03/2018 09:07

I think after 2 days and 379 posts OP has probably got the message now!

Ssarah39 · 11/03/2018 09:08

I don't think your husband is being unfair. We live in the countryside and if I didn't drive I would be isolated as public transport is rubbish and expensive. But from what you are saying you have a possible undiagnosed learning need (sorry I don't want to sound rude) but it maybe worthwhile seeking advice from your gp to see if you can get a diagnosis and then take it from there. It maybe that once you have a diagnosis it could rule out driving or you may need extra assistance with lessons.

TammyWhyNot · 11/03/2018 09:36

@londonrach what do you possibly think you can add to a long 3 day old thread, when you haven’t RTFT. And thinking you can dive in and have a go at the OP without having read her further posts?

Scarlet1234 · 11/03/2018 12:40

I have exactly the same problems with driving as the OP. It is not unreasonable to refrain from driving in the circumstances - some people are just not able to drive. However, wherever you move to, OP, you need to make sure there are good transport links and perhaps you could make sure that the schools are within walking distance or at least a short bus ride - and that the buses are regular. TBH though I don't really think it's unreasonable, if they are both full time, for the husband to do the majority of the school drop offs since he drives unless the school is a really long drive away or it conflicts with his work schedule. Commuting to work by public transport is so much less flexible than driving and having to do a drop off on the way wouldn't likely add much more time than simply dropping off by car (since you then have to wait around for the next bus etc). Perhaps the OP could make up for it by doing the majority of certain other house hold chores etc or child care.

Scarlet1234 · 11/03/2018 12:41

*would add more time - predictive text

squeekums · 11/03/2018 13:03

sunshine11 Whilst I’m sympathetic to your fears, that’s all they are. Essentially it’s all in your head and a little bit of NLP or hypnotherapy should sort it out. Very sad that you’re letting your lives be limited in this way when a solution is so simple

Fun fact, i tried hypnotherapy when i was pregnant due to my needle phobia. The never got blood from me, was deemed unsafe by drs, risk of miscarriage or personal injury was bigger

LimonViola
I'm sorry you never got the support you needed to move on from this. Anxiety isn't something you get and then can never ever improve or get rid of. There are lots of therapies aimed at helping you to understand it and then be able to re engage with normal activities it's been holding you back from.

Oh ive thought about it since we moved, not cos i feel i need to but it feels safer out here than the city, im generally more relaxed now also, just access a problem, i do live rural already and mental health is invisible out here.
Oh i get dp went through stress and anxiety with driving, he was a truck driver so we seen the worst actually. Which is why i dont nag for a lift, i pack us all up if we going out, he does the car related packing though lol, im the one who jumps out at shops and whatnot as he has social anxiety and has trouble with crowded places.
We counter each other

notagoodidea · 11/03/2018 13:30

You could move to this one, school close by and supermarket delivery's
with an hourly bus service.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/property/3191093-Where-have-all-the-people-who-want-to-move-to-the-country-gone

notsodimwit · 11/03/2018 14:04

I live in a rural village and I think driving is a must, getting to shops, doctors etc as the village I live in has very very few buses [think 1 a week] I could not do without driving!

PickleFish · 11/03/2018 14:25

don't overestimate how difficult it can be to get help for anxiety. You wouldn't get much on the NHS in my area; possibly one or two sessions, after waiting for a year or two! at most, half a dozen. For the sort of anxiety I had, it wouldn't have come close. Medication was also not helpful. Finding other sources of help can be very expensive, and very time consuming - it can take years.

So it isn't necessarily a matter of simply sorting it out with a few sessions of NLP.

But that's not to say that solutions aren't possible in many cases, and it's worth trying to overcome them. You might find they are easier to solve than expected, or that you do get more help on the NHS than in some places.

Canuckduck · 11/03/2018 14:32

I learned to drive a couple of years ago in my late 30’s. I was very nervous and didn’t enjoy driving at all. I wanted to be able to bring my kids to school, go to the doctors and shop wherever I wanted. It took many, many lessons but I got there. I would stick with an automatic and stick with it.

gentlydoesit89 · 11/03/2018 14:42

I passed my test a month ago. I took one in November and failed.
The test rules changed in December- this test just gone I was pretty much left to my own devices and relying on a sat nav as opposed to ‘please turn left please turn right’ from the examiner.
It was by far a calmer experience, so please don’t fear the test itself.
I’d give it another shot.

ineedwine99 · 11/03/2018 14:44

I’m with you OP, scares the crap out of me the thought of driving, when i do do it i’ll be doing so in an automatic. I’m in the countryside and have a great bus service

LimonViola · 11/03/2018 15:04

That's a shame PickleFish. It would go against the Nice guidelines for them to just offer one or two sessions :S that's not recognised to be an effective dose of treatment at all.

In my area you ring up, get an assessment booked in while you're on the phone, usually begin therapy within a couple of weeks and have between six and twenty sessions. It's absolutely brilliant.

PickleFish · 11/03/2018 15:26

that sounds very impressive. Here they advertise (in the surgery) a service (paid) that you can go to. And some group sessions.

But then physio was a single session too (after a 6 month wait).

UnsuspectedItem · 11/03/2018 15:33

Sorry if this has already been said but if you can handle riding a bike with your left/right difficulties then you can drive a car.

Everyone's nervous driving at the start.

You're making excuses and, to be Frank being really very selfish.

marymoosmum · 11/03/2018 17:44

I failed 3 times before I passed, I live in the country and buses are few and far between, it is better to drive.

SharronNeedles · 11/03/2018 17:47

Failed 6 times, took me 2 years worth of lessons to pass.

Have now been driving for 10 years and have 10 years of no claims.

It was terrifying for me in the beginning but I knew it would be a skill that would come in handy. Means I've been able to look further a field for a good job, live in the area I want to live it. Nip to the shop I want to go to. Drive up to the really good ice cream shop.

If you don't want to drive, that's is 100% fine. Just understand that you can't have your cake and eat it too, and don't make excuses. 'I don't want to' is a valid enough reason. But don't expect others to do it for you.

Angelil · 11/03/2018 18:16

Haven't read the whole thread yet but I am totally with your husband. And I speak as someone who knows how difficult driving is.

I had my first driving lessons in my third year at university (so 2006/2007). Before that I was too afraid.
Unfortunately I changed university for my master's and had only had six months' lessons by that point, so wasn't ready for a test. After a six-month break from lessons I had another six-month stint of lessons in my university town. Took a test and failed it about as badly as it's possible to fail without crashing. This was in 2008.
I then moved abroad. What with moving to a new country, getting my first graduate job, moving apartment twice and changing jobs once in the space of six months or so...I didn't get round to thinking about driving lessons again for some time.
Fast forward then to September 2011. As mentioned I was living abroad - specifically in France. In France they don't allow you to take any practical lessons before you have passed your theory - which I find very silly. So at least in the UK you have that on your side: you can put your theoretical knowledge into practice immediately. Like you, I find it very difficult to visualise things, so found it tricky to not be able to do this. The French theory test is also very different in content and approach to the British one, so because of this, I didn't pass my theory test in France until July 2012.
Everything in France shuts down for the summer, so I didn't start practical lessons until September 2012. In my mind, I still knew how to drive (though how I thought this would be the reality given that I hadn't actually driven for four years, I had no idea), so thought it would just be a case of brushing up on my (even I knew rusty) knowledge and signing up for the practical test asap. In reality I had actually forgotten how to drive and developed a full-blown phobia of driving. It took many months of lessons and I did many a manoeuvre with tears streaming down my face before I was even halfway ready to take a test, which I did for the first time in France in October 2013. (I still dissolved into tears halfway through so clearly was not that ready.)
In France you cannot enter yourself for the practical test - only your driving school can. There are limited slots and in the Paris area it is even worse. So by the time you are on your second or third attempt (as I was) you are a low priority and can be left waiting months or years for slots. My next test was therefore not until May 2014, which I failed on a technicality (having luckily overcome my phobia).
At this time French driving schools could still charge €100 to transfer your file to another driving school (even to one I could walk to in about 10 minutes). This legal loophole was thankfully then closed so in November 2014 I sent my file to a driving school in the south of France where my aunt and uncle live.
In my holiday I travelled there, had two hours of driving lessons on the Monday and the same again on the Tuesday before doing my test on the Wednesday, which I passed, finally getting my licence in February 2015.

I tell you all of this to show you that if I can do it then anybody can. I was phobic of driving, had/have coordination and spatial issues, and was having to do the majority of this in my second language, in the face of the frustrating bureaucracy of the country in which I chose to live. I'm guessing you maybe only face half of these issues.

So perhaps you are now wondering why I think your husband is reasonable, and why I pursued all of this despite my difficulties.
I am, and have been, lucky enough to live in places where public transport is excellent and essentials (e.g. supermarket, pharmacy etc) and luxuries (e.g. restaurants) are in walking distance. So you could argue that I did not need to put myself through all of this.

However, I know that I may not always be this lucky. You never know where you might live in future. In your case, you actively wish to move to the countryside. Others have already pointed out the deficiencies of public transport in these areas of the UK.
I do think it is indeed more practical to be able to drive when you have children.
I also wished never to turn out like my grandmother, who has never learned to drive. Now that her husband has died, she has to get a taxi to the supermarket once a week, and pleasures that she once enjoyed (e.g. holidays to Scarborough, trips to the theatre) have now been eliminated. When he was alive she was forced to be his passenger even when he was over the drink-drive limit. Why would you ever want to put yourself in either of those positions? Considering what the future may hold does not just encompass places to live, but a whole range of other situations.

Even today, the independence driving has already provided me with is invaluable and I am able to help my husband with the long-distance driving that we are at times obliged to do (living in Holland and having family in France and the UK means being able to drive to visit them can be greatly advantageous!). You can also go to far more places on your holidays that are off the beaten track, rather than being restricted to the tourist trails, if you are able to drive.

I hope this provides some impetus to motivate you to take up driving lessons again. I know what it is like to be afraid of driving and that you will be terrible at it. You just have to remember that the benefits far outweigh your fears - and that many people far stupider than you have managed to learn how to do it before you!

Tobebythesea · 11/03/2018 18:29

I am dyslexic and driving is fine. I would recommend lessons in an automatic if you are really nervous.

Angelil · 11/03/2018 18:39

Now that I have read the whole thread, OP, I just wanted to add that I think this is something you should do for yourself. Not your husband.

caffeinequick · 11/03/2018 18:57

I live in the sticks and I wouldn't be able to without my car. I think of you don't plan on driving then a lot of thought needs to go into whether a rural location is right for you. I know two people that don't drive. One cycles everywhere but doesn't have children and is retired and the other relies on lifts from everyone to get about.

appleblossomtree · 11/03/2018 19:02

What happens if you dh is away for the night and you have to rush hour child to the nearest A&E. You are BU. I would want to have the flexibility to drive my children around. We are 30 minutes from the nearest hospital/town.

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