‘Women who dress like slags cheapen the rest of us’.

[Eltonjohnssyrup]

Said by my mother who is as left wing as Trotsky, a Corbynista and a self identified feminist.

I did say to her at the time that I thought using the word ‘slag’ was wrong. But my sons were there at the time and although two of them are too young to understand I find it worrying they might internalise that kind of thing.

We have a fractious relationship anyway (she used to call me promiscuous as an older teenager because I’d had a snog and a grope). So I don’t want to cause a lot of friction. But I wonder if I should send her an email saying that isn’t acceptable.

My Mum and I have certainly always done this, as have my friends. Some women do look like, and/or act like slags

How do refer to men that don't dress to your tastes?

It isn't obvious to anyone at all! Only those who cannot seem to grasp the context within which it is written.

My red nails have obviously made me thick.

It is obvious to everyone what you meant.

At least I can defend my points.

No, you just backtracked.

You do not trust the intelligence of women who dress a certain way, or wear red lipstick and nail varnish. You can't really defend that, because that view is so abhorrent it just isn't defendable.

Oh dear, some of the replies on this thread

My comments on intelligence have nothing to do with the word slag. What they are to do with are how women are perceived. I am not as bad as someone who calls women slags because of who they have sex with, at all.
Wonder how many here are the pearl clutchers on the thread about a woman with three kids to three dads, and who had 5 sexual partners in 3 months? Double standards much.

It's very offensive to refer to women as 'slags', why is it that women are judged for sleeping around but not men? It's too often a way to blame victims of rape as well.

Starlight, I doubt they care what I look like. By the time they see me they are in too much distress to care about hair and lipstick

Goodness me, the hatred. Some real projection going on. I haven't called any woman a slag. Do women risk being judged as less intelligent by dressing in a 'sexualised' way? Yes. That's a fact. Do I judge like that? Yes. But I don't judge them for who they have sex with. I judge that they want to demonstrate their attractiveness above their intelligence.
Obviously because you say so I mean they are slags
No. I mean they overtly demonstrate attractiveness in a heteronormative way by which men look at their beauty before their other attributes.
Abhorrent? Ok then

Fair enough Peach. There was no criticism from me.
All I did was post my general views. Others may call me frumpy, ugly, butch, a lesbian, lazy or whatever. Doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with my sex life just as I don't judge people's sex lives based on their clothing. And that is what thinking of a woman as a slag is.

Gosh, it looks like we won't need the men to send us to the dystopian possibility that is the Handmaids Tale, we're doing it all by ourselves....

For those who say that you have to dress a certain way to get men's respect, where does that start? If a man deems that your top is a little low-cut, does that mean that he has the right to treat you disrespectfully?

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Wow! Aren’t you a charmer!? Lol
It’s not an amount of c by the way, it’s number!!

Wonder how many here are the pearl clutchers on the thread about a woman with three kids to three dads, and who had 5 sexual partners in 3 months? Double standards much.

Not me. You know that different people reply to different threads?

My comments on intelligence have nothing to do with the word slag. What they are to do with are how women are perceived.

That's my point. It is disgusting that you can't take some women seriously, based on how they look.

You said that YOU don't trust their intelligence. You expect women to look a certain way so other people don't make judgments on their intelligence.

I find that because of how men view women, I also view women who choose to aspire to that way of presenting themselves, as putting themselves in a position where they are primarily judged for their attractiveness to the opposite sex, as opposed to other attributes.

Women should not change how they look just to stop themselves from being viewed a certain way by men. I don't give two shits how men view me. I don't dress for men. If a man wants to view me a certain way because of how I look that is their problem.

It is very sad that you think women should dress a certain way to stop men from judging them.

or those who dye their hair blonde and wear red lipstick and nail varnish, something which I can't take seriously or trust their intelligence

If you think there's a correlation between red lipstick and intelligence, I'd hazard a guess that you're not such a bright spark yourself.

Not read the whole thread as i can't believe such idiotic vile and gormless people post on MN as Angelos (sp) and Green whatever. What repulsive individuals you are.
OP your DM sounds like the above, add to that abusive to you as a teen and with a mouth full of spite. If anyone used those sorts of words in front of DD i would be putting a good distance between us and after how DM treated you as a teen, well, i'd forget about spending time with such a vile bully at all.
Yuk i don't think i've read such a horrible woman hating thread on MN before and people proudly announcing here how they speak of other women of whose lives/situation etc they no nothing.

I judge that they want to demonstrate their attractiveness above their intelligence.

A woman who dresses a certain way wants to demonstrate their attractiveness above their intelligence?

How does someone intelligent look?

Oh come on, ladies - and I use the term with some trepidation - it is not good fashion sense to show present your cleavage AND show your legs in a v v short skirt, at the same time. I am amazed more of you do not know this!

ibiscuit you’re my kind of woman I too believe red nails and leopard print go with everything! People can dismiss me as an airhead and trollop if they like but they do so at their peril.

RoseWhiteTips

Oh come on, ladies - and I use the term with some trepidation - it is not good fashion sense to present your cleavage AND show your legs in a v v short skirt, at the same time. I am amazed more of you do not know this!

it is not good fashion sense to show present your cleavage AND show your legs in a v v short skirt, at the same time. I am amazed more of you do not know this!

I wish I had the option to show both. Cleavage isn't something I have so I will never make that fashion mistake

An intelligent woman does not wear red lipstick AND leopard skin print at the same time. God, some of you are in dire need of style tips.

it is not good fashion sense

Of course presuming people care about fashion sense?! Because I'm quite certain not everybody does.

that was meant to be not

So it may say something about me but blonde hair low cut top painted nails and short skirt would mean I'd be laughed out of the workplace and receiving pervy looks at my breasts, being called 'love', and having to manage innuendos masked as 'banter'.
It may be different for you. My views are based on my experience and observations.

God, some of you are in dire need of style tips

What nonsense. So people need to dress in some pre-determined way as decided by whom?! A few fashion magazines?

Nah, you're alright - I'd rather dress how I choose

rosewhitetips I’ll remind myself how unintelligent I am next time I wear these combo to work as the senior technical lead on my next IT project. I’ve worked in a male dominated profession all my life I can assure you no one makes the mistake of not taking me seriously.

U2 I thought you were gratefully taking on board the Style Tips for the Non Slaggy Laideee