Peak P&C space rage!

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Argh. Just whipped DD up to the shops to get some nibbles for our guests who are arriving shortly. The spaces at this particular Waitrose are very tight and I'm very pregnant, so did need a P&C spot.

There was one left, so I headed for it. But nooo - some tool in a wannabe sports car zoomed the wrong way up the one way bit and parked in it (badly). Door opened and a young couple got out. No baby. No child. I assume no disabilities as there were several empty disabled spaces even nearer the shop.

I had to get DD out at the side of the car park and then park, as there was just no way I could do it in a normal space. The worst thing was, as I was struggling to do so, I saw them heading off... THEY WEREN'T EVEN GOING INTO FUCKING WAITROSE!!!!!

Am I wrong to wish the plague of a thousand traffic wardens upon their heads?

Well there’s absolutely nothing to say you can’t. You still have a baby ‘on board’. It would have to be an absolute arse that would criticise you.

Yes PositivelyPERF but when it comes to parking there is a bottomless pit of absolute arses: men, women, and probably trans in both directions.

Situp If it were tried here some male twat would sue for sex discrimination and I fear he would win. And it wouldn’t be me.

Very true Andrewofgg. The car park would end up like a Wild West bar room brawl, every weekend. 😁

Just thinking about this Andrewofgg

Situp If it were tried here some male twat would sue for sex discrimination and I fear he would win. And it wouldn’t be me.

Isn’t it pathetic that men would actually shout that having a space where a woman can safely get to a shop, without getting raped or assaulted, is sexist? If you asked them if they would prefer if women’s safety was compromised they’d say no, but but but.

Yes it is pathetic but the law sometimes leads to pathetic results. There's about thirty million men in this country and it would only take one to be pathetic and litigious and that would be that. Please don't think I like the thought; I don't.

In Japan they have women only Train carriages

I have made all the points I am going to make on this, but just to answer Andrew who I think is just deliberately misconstruing what I meant by "quite simple"... the government (or local council) already legislate for things like parking space size, and the government suggested that sizes were reviewed to accomodate larger cars. This can be and is already done through the planning and bylaw system.

Ditto for Equality laws requiring adjustments to be made to improve access for disabled people - this affects also private businesses.

Also in recent years requirements were brought in for new homes that require that doorways must be a minimum width, downstairs bathrooms must be a certain size, and paths to front doors should all be wheelchair accessible and more disabled friendly - this affects the private sector and which had to be legislated for because although clearly a good and necessary idea, home building companies were not doing it of their own free will.

In the same vein, there have been introductions of minimum bedroom sizes for HMOs and proposals were made to widen this to new homes (may have already been done I am not up to date), Additionally local councils can set their own standards, not just national governement. Again, common decent standards of space were being absued in the private sector and so govt stepped in to legislate or threaten to legislate if standards weren't improved voluntarily.

You may not agree with this legislative approach, but even the Tories - staunch advocates of slashing red tape and minimal intervention - have seen the need to do these things.

I wasn't saying that the legislation itself is quite simple, but that the process of deciding action needs to be taken is quite simple, and that the mechanism already exists and is well used...

Clearly to try to limit the damage caused by the seemingly "bottomless pit of absolute arses" as you so beautifully put it.

It’s ok Andrewofgg, I’ve seen enough of your posts to understand you wouldn’t agree with that. 🌹

Faire enough lycoperdun - there will always be questions about how far government, national or local, should micro-manage businesses for the Greater Good and opinions will differ. The one point I made which won't go away is that making all the spaces wider would mean there were fewer spaces. The Basic Laws of Arithmetic (Repeal) Bill is not gong to work!