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to ask for trans threads to stay in Feminism?

345 replies

yawning801 · 23/02/2018 17:11

Just that, really. This isn't meant to start a debate, or be goady in any way. I've just hidden the Feminism board to avoid the trans threads but they're seeping into AIBU (like this one I suppose Grin) and other places too and I'm trying to avoid them! Can we keep trans threads in Feminism please? TIA

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Bluelady · 23/02/2018 17:40

All those people objecting to seeing these threads are proving just how much they need to extend to a wider audience than the feminist section. The ignorance is breathtaking.

Xulishesthepilot · 23/02/2018 17:40

MsHarry one day you'll just be happily reading through the pages of a thread and then it's a trans thread. It comes out of nowhere sometimes.

SpringHen · 23/02/2018 17:40

But its not staying in gender politics debates in real life so obvs cropping up on other topics.

Its happening in our kids schools. In our hobbies. Its an issue that in real life is spilling out into education, sport, employment...so of course its going to spread over the boards!

When your daughter/son gets told in school that if they dont comply with gender steriotypes then they should be considering chemical castration then you come back and tell us not to post about TRAs in education etc

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MsHarry · 23/02/2018 17:44

No , not happened to me yet!

LearnFromThePast · 23/02/2018 17:44

YANBU.

toomanyweeds · 23/02/2018 17:46

MsHarry because IME the trans threads attract a minority of bonkers man haters (n.b. I am not denying that there are real, important and interesting issues that could be discussed, but the bonkers types tend to dominate the threads).

Lovesagin · 23/02/2018 17:46

I'm very pleased that this subject is being talked about more, even threads like this are raising awareness of the issues facing us all, including, obviously, trans identified people :)

AdaColeman · 23/02/2018 17:46

Here's hoping that the Royal Baby and Royal Wedding threads stay on the Royalty Board.

BertrandRussell · 23/02/2018 17:47

The problem is that trans issues shouldn’t be a feminist matter, but that’s what they have become. And because any discussion is labeled transphobic bile and hate we have a problem and n obvious way to solve it.

Incidentally, things are regularly said about feminists that are considerably more bile filled and hateful than anything said on these boards about trans ideology.

Sparklingbrook · 23/02/2018 17:47

YANBU. Thank goodness we can hide trans threads from Active without opening them though.

My awareness is as raised as I ever need it to be.

A separate topic also for moaning about MILs/CFs/parking (with or without diagrams) would be great.

toomanyweeds · 23/02/2018 17:47

Also what HotCrossBunFight said.

HotCrossBunFight · 23/02/2018 17:48

I doubt a royal wedding thread in AIBU will have a stealthy title like a lot of the trans threads though!

LoveYouSo · 23/02/2018 17:48

The trans issue is not just a feminism. It affects children too. And believe it or not it affects decent men who care about women an women's rights.

And don't forget freedom of speech!

So, you are being completely unreasonable!

OYF

Sparklingbrook · 23/02/2018 17:48

I haven't seen a Royal thread for a week or so, it's been lovely.

LoveYouSo · 23/02/2018 17:49

Not just a feminist issue

DickTERFin · 23/02/2018 17:49

Oh for goodness sake you’re an adult (I’m presuming) and you really don’t need coddling. You especially don’t need other adults to edit the internet for you because you perfectly capable of picking and chosing the content you wish to consume by not clicking or hiding threads that aren’t for you.

You need to turn your “adulting” dial up a bit and stop parentifying Mumsnet users.

Trueheart1 · 23/02/2018 17:49

YABU there seems to have been an influx of Trans rights activists onto mumsnet recently. They probably heard that women have free and open debates here and it triggered their rage. Your pathetic suggestion of a way to hide the open discussion of this issue that will impact all women is transparent.

grasspigeons · 23/02/2018 17:49

There are a lot of them and often they are saying very similar things, but I find them really easy to spot and either avoid or join in with depending on my mood.

I have a particular interest in stereotypes about things women are good at v things men are good at - so I tend to look at threads where this might come up.

AnxiousPeg · 23/02/2018 17:50

What's really, really frustrating is that the people who complain about the threads and about 'all the hate' are the very ones who need to read them

I've only ever seen a handful of pro self-ID posters actually engage in proper debate and try to explain why they think it's ok to dismiss women's concerns and rights. And they always, always come unstuck.

If you think MN is transphobic, try properly challenging the ideas and concerns rather than ranting about 'hate' and thrn running off.

I for one am genuinely intrigued to learn why someone who doesn't hate women wouldn't have a problem with the proposals. Why can't someone explain that in a way that makes sense?

Lovesagin · 23/02/2018 17:52

So people are unhappy at seeing something they wouldn't expect, or actually want to see?

Hmm......interesting.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 23/02/2018 17:52

YABU.

I have feminism hidden. It’s not just a feminist issue.

Beetlejizz · 23/02/2018 17:55

YABU to start this thread, as you've inspired various dim handmaidens out to congratulate themselves for being so open minded their brains have fallen out not being nasty TERFs. And that's just sad.

That said, I for one would adore an AIBU parking specific subforum. So at least some good might come from this thread.

Helpimfalling · 23/02/2018 17:56

Help I don't understand all the acronyms