Is this allowed?

[ThisLittleKitty]

Does anyone know if this is allowed. Ex doesn't work or pay maintenance. He lives in a 3 bed housing association and rents out the rooms in the house (sleeps in the living room on the sofa so rents out 3 bedroom.) This gets him enough to live without having to work. He says he is allowed to do it and he has permission from the HA but when I spoke to the Cms and explained to them what he does and asked if they could take money from that, they said it was illegal and he want actually allowed to do it so they wouldn't be able to take any money from him. I'm not sure who is right as when I was younger my mum use to have a
Lodger and rent the box room out to him and she said it was allowed, she just had to pay a small amount to the council. Anyone know?

FreudianSlurp

Ok so first point alone is a huge red flag as to the character of this individual and what he is capable of in terms of cheating others out of money.

He is happy to cheat his children out of money. Why not the government?

The rent is income so surely OP is entitled to some of it. There is nothing illegal about running an HMO, provided the safety conditions are met (smoke alarms, gas inspections, etc). Whether this particular HMO requires a licence depends on the local authority. OP you should go back to the CMS and tell them they were incorrect in telling you this is illegal.

i.e., in some authorities only HMOs with five or more residents are required to be licenced. In others, all HMOs require licensing.

FreudianSlurp

Are you sock puppeting?

I don’t understand your post before mine and then immediately after.

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I don't think PPs are doing anything wrong in giving examples of things that the ExP may or may not be doing wrong. The OP asked if what he is doing is allowed and the answer is yes it might be, but then again it might not. Yes he his HA allows lodgers - but do they allow multiple lodgers? Yes he can make a living, but only up to a certain amount - is he declaring it? By having so many lodgers is he breaching LA HMO regulations.

We do not know the answers to these questions but by posing them we are giving the OP an opportunity to answer her subsequent question - where to go from here and indeed, some PPs have signposted options for her.

There is one thing that strikes me - CMS have looked into his case and he must have proven to them that he has no income, hence not paying CM - is this why when the OP approached CMS they are adamant that he is operating illegally. I think we really need to consider that CMS know what they are talking about.

OP You asked where to go from here...
Contact the HA and alert them to the lodgers you have knowledge of, let them investigate - it may indeed be legitimate but you will only know once you have told them.
Contact local authority and ask if he is breaching any of their regulations by doing what he is doing. Again he may not be but you will only know this once you have asked.
Contact HMRC and alert them to his claims of earning £2K pm from lodgers - let them investigate.
Contact CMS again and ask them to signpost you in the direction you need to go in to get his illegal activities sorted - if they state his activities are 100% illegal then that strongly suggests that when you told them what he is doing they have other information - If I were a betting woman I would say its his tax return (or lack thereof)

HMRC do not just rely on "digital and/or paper trails". I know of someone who was caught out because they never bought any groceries or petrol via debit or credit card, nor did they withdraw cash. Old fashioned investigative leg work showed that they did indeed make many purchases cash. It was proven that they did this through cash in hand payments from undeclared income. HMRC have many ways to catch tax evaders.

U could report him to hmrc if he's not declaring as income, perhaps