To think it’s wrong of this man to film a child?

[MrsA2015]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5391341/Passenger-films-toddlers-eight-hour-tantrum-flight.html

I can see why he filmed it but for it to be put on the net is too far! I feel quite sorry for the mother she must have felt mortified

Either way he should’ve been told to stop filming, it wasn’t doing any good as far as stopping then “tantrum”. I’m struggling to see how the situation could’ve been avoided, I detected a note of pleading in her voice when she asked about then WIFI, perhaps the iPad would’ve Worked to calm him had the surroundings been different.

I had a similar experience on a shopping trip once , two hours of the same level of noise and screaming and although it was highly irritating I couldn’t even imagine how the parent must’ve felt.

I don't understand why anyone would film someone else's upset child.
Like maybe he was annoyed by it but so what. We were all crying childeren once. Would he like it if a stranger filmed him having a breakdown!

I feel for everyone involved. Mum, passengers but mostly the child. He was totally stressed out and he was the one least able to understand what was going on.

I can see no purpose at all for filming it. Is the man hoping to sue the airline or something? As horrible as that will certainly have been for the passengers it was probably unavoidable. I can’t imagine any parent wanting to go through that for a jolly. I suspect the flight was necessary travel. Sometimes we just all have to be uncomfortable and there is no one to blame. We just get to Be thankful when it’s over and it’s not us dealing with it permanently.

NotASingleFuckToGive

I agree. That child would have been severely distressed and hoarse after 8 hours of that. Its traumatic for them and hell for passengers and staff and as you say what of other children who may be disabled/have special needs on the flight.

One day she’ll be visiting the kid in prison - mark my words.

can you give me your name so I can credit the quote?

So you get to call the special needs card when it’s a child ?

But when someone posts here about an adult being rude in a social encounter and someone suggests the adult may have behavioural problems they are roundly condemned ?

They should have taken a boat so he could have been confined to a cabin (padded cell and/or straight jacket) and if they had to fly he should have been tranquilized/sedated.

There’s something quite sickening about you. Reported.

Either way he should’ve been told to stop filming, it wasn’t doing any good as far as stopping then “tantrum”.

Stopping the 'tantrum" wasn't even a priority for the child's DM or the flight staff. I don't blame him for filming it. The footage should have been kept internal though, purely so that he and the other passengers could be recompensed for it. It shouldn't have made its way online.

Whatever the reason, that child is clearly very unhappy. I couldn't put a child through that for 8 hours.

Having a disability is not an excuse to subject other ppl to something like that for 8 hrs, especially as they couldn't get away.
What about other passengers with issues, eg, noise sensitivity? I'm on the autistic spectrum myself and that would've driven me crazy within minutes. So do my rights matter less?
I also have a child with it and I wouldn't subject others to that sort of behaviour, especially in a confined space.
If my dc tantrums we leave and don't return until they are calm. I simply wouldn't have taken such a long flight if these were the possible consequences. Other ppl shouldn't have to put up with it, and if that means we don't get to do some things, then so be it, because I'm considerate to others' feelings.

Why do his rights/needs come above those of the other passengers? It's not fair and he should've been removed from the flight. Don't forget ppl could've saved up for years to afford that trip, only to have it ruined for them.

Very selfish.

I have a disability. Sometimes that means there are things I can't do. Not everything is able to be adjustable.

Why should my family be punished for having a disabled child ???

Assuming the child does have a SN and they were going to be so distressed that they screamed, cried and climbed over seats for 8 hours why would you even consider putting them through that?

Let alone the other passengers.

That child should have been sedated.

Why should other passengers HAVE to put up with that!!

Cruel to the kid and even crueller for those people having to listen to that racket for 8 fecking hours.

Kudo's to them for tolerating it.

I agree - if i knew in advance that my child would react like this on a long flight, i'd avoid travelling very far because it appears there are limited adaptations that can be made on flights for passengers with such additional needs.

Therefore, i'm assuming this trip was really necessary or - like a PP has stated - the mother hadn't attempted a long haul flight with him before.

I really think that better communication at the beginning could have solved all of this. The mother could have made the flight staff aware and asked the other passengers to be aware/show some understanding.

What if it’s a journey you just have to make though? There is no way round it, you have to go somewhere. Like your child is having a meltdown on the bus home and there is nothing for it but to grin and bear it until you get home. No point getting off and waiting for another bus as he will do the same. What do you do? You need to get Home.

Some journeys are unavoidable. If this 8 hour plane trip really was unavoidable, then sedation would have been kinder.
But nobody is talking about a normal short bus journey.

And what if she didn’t know in advance he was going to do it? Maybe they’ve never flown before so she had no idea he would react this way.

Charolais that has to be by far and away the most sick and twisted post I've ever read on Mumsnet and my goodness there have been a few over the years.

You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself

But I have no doubt you really aren't. That says a lot more about you than anyone else on that flight, including the dick who filmed the child.

Get off the bus and walk home would be one option, or pay for a taxi.

And what if she didn’t know in advance he was going to do it? Maybe they’ve never flown before so she had no idea he would react this way

Then she should have got off her arse every hour or so, and tried to soothe her disabled, distressed child.

Of course his needs don't trump others'. But people with disabilities will very likely need to go on planes at some point in their lives, too (let's say, hypothetically, this kid was off to visit a terminally ill relative). So, going forward, i'm just wondering what reasonable adjustments can be made on planes to avoid this situation and level of anger from other passengers repeating itself.

Get off the bus and walk home would be one option, or pay for a taxi.

You’ve no money and you live 3 towns over.

Two things

1. That child is highly distressed. No one screams for 8 full hours,especially a child that small. They'd pass out from exhaustion or lose their voice eventually.
2. The situation was highly dangerous for the child. Running around the plane and climbing on seats was very dangerous,and tbh made more an impression on me than the screaming.

I did see in the video what appeared to be airline staff remarking how close the childs head is to the ceiling. Mum did nothing.