Oh right Granny, that's good, hopefully if NT they grow out of it. Oh no Brothers, the same thing happened to us on a short haul flight a couple of years ago, we must have been the family from hell. I was so stressed I felt like taking a blooming valium and mogadon washed down with some stiff wisky. dd then 9 was fine, ds then 4, decided to wind dd up as he was bored (been through the i pad, colouring books, jigsaws, books etc), que meltdown and screaming on the plane like somebody was trying to strangle her. Thank god it was a 3 hour one and not an 8 hour.