Jacob Rees mogg at the University of the West of England (Title edited by MNHQ)

[Grrrrrsnarl]

Just watched the clip of Jacob rees mogg at Bristol university, when a few momentum activists try to cause havoc and stop him from talking

Whatever anyone thinks of this man, I have to say he was pretty gutsy going up to them, considering they are all hiding behind Balaclavas and scarves and there wasn't any security there.
Most politicians wouldn't have gone near them, let alone try to talk to them

I like him. Yes his views are controversial and I don't agree with some of them, but at least he stands up for what he believes in

Full video
twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/959529976616947712. ( Sorry only know how to link to a tweet)

Sorry, user147, I didn't complete the sentence - I wondered as your writing style seemed similar. It's hard to remember all the posters with a user name of 'user+series of numbers.

It appears that the violence actually started due to a rightwinger (possibly connected to Rees-Mog) pushing a female protester: skwawkbox.org/2018/02/04/white-shirt-identified-rees-mogg-supporting-martial-artist/

What a surprise.

Lucyccfc Humour is the what keeps us laughing.

Boris is a complete baffoon ... What does that make the people of London?

Corbyn is a socialist not a communist ... Is he, is he really?

Justanotherlurker
I am a dad so a man, I ended up on here as a lurker originally, because I google about Gove's GCSE reforms and haow they would effect my low achieving son. Mumsnet came, easpecially helpfully threads from noblegiraffe. I stayed. Then had to join to continue to read. Only started post before Christmas, on education threads and like Dapplegrey says it was about education in my home city and using vat on private schools to improve them.
I starting to thing I should just piss off back to lurking or leave completely, I try, admitted poorly to explain my thoughts, and usually I am dismissed for being a man, or because I don't approve off private schools.
I am a remainer, I voted Green and would love to stay in EU or EFTA. But I am in the minority in Hull/East Yorkshire and many people we know see Corbyn as something different. Like many on this thread seem to think Johnson, Gove and Rees Mogg will make Britain great again'
I personally hate both sides, I wanted Tim Farron to be PM, but if I had to choose Corbyn or Boris/Mogg then sorry its Corbyn all the way. I would rather die than vote Tory.

Leeds maybe in the centre, talk you have been to the suburbs like Stannington, Hunslet

All cities have poorer areas.

Sheffield is a ghost town for steel compared to my youth.

Sheffield used to churn out high quantities of low grade steel products. Like the rest of the western world it makes absolutely zero sense for us to produce products which can't compete with cheap products from overseas. Apart from a brief blip when steel prices went up a few years ago because of high demand in China, it's just been impossible for us to produce that sort of steel because the costs involved (especially labour) make it too expensive to produce them.

Instead the steel industry here makes high cost, high tech pieces of equipment which other countries don't have the skills to produce. The steel industry here is highly specialised and skilled and brings in a lot of money. The fact that we don't have the sort of huge smoke churning plants we used to doesn't mean a lot.

It appears that the violence actually started due to a rightwinger (possibly connected to Rees-Mog) pushing a female protester: skwawkbox.org/2018/02/04/white-shirt-identified-rees-mogg-supporting-martial-artist/*

Any other source other than the extremely biased Squarkbox?

It appears that the violence actually started due to a rightwinger

Rather than apologise... The left is really sinking to new lows.

Wow, some people are really rattled by Corbyn espousing something that is outside of the disasterous neo liberal economic model. An economic model that has seen public utilities sold off, the gap between rich and poor get wider and a record number of people reliant of food banks.

In respect of freedom of speech as anyone who has watched the leader of the opposition speak during PMQ's would know he is constantly shouted down and heckled. This is the democracy (mother of all parliaments) that Brexiteers wanted back. And here it is being treated with contempt.

lino Swawkbox isn't a reliable source of news. It's a highly biased left wing site.

Go and watch the footage. That girl's boyfriend can be seen clearly and repeatedly throwing huge punches (which didn't connect with anyone because he was pulled back) before there were any signs of violence from elsewhere. He kicked it off, you can clearly see that the people on the other side were acting defensively towards his violence and she was caught in the crossfire from that.

Crikey elton do you really need to be so rude and insulting?

I don't think I've been much ruder than anybody else on the thread. But of course you'll ignore that just complaining about the people who have views you oppose.

Which (like Swawkbox above) is a pretty standard left wing tactic.

Ignore the fact you're the ones throwing insults and punches, but as soon as anybody dares to retaliate clutch your pearls and scream 'VICTIM!'

Rather than apologise...

Who do you think should be apologising?

The left is really sinking to new lows.

The Rees Mogg incident happened on the same day a man (influenced by right wing propaganda) was convicted for driving a van into a mosque.

Sorry Dapplegrey
After my attempts to explain schools in Hull/East Yorkshire and finding, (a bit like on this thread), if you go against the majority and try to explain why you feel like you do, then every one picks our anti private school sentence and ignores your real gripe, then I become quite defensive, I am only educated to CSE level really and you and post other posters scare the poo out of me.
I have posted on that one, A noblegirafe maths, school rugby, Bournemouth university and Oxbridge widening participation one and this thread. I feel scared and slightly overwhelmed. So sorry if I was rude
This is the first thread not on education and I truly wish I hadn't posted. I hate how Britain is now, divided and the weakest thrown under a political bus, often by people who class themselves as poor/working class themselves.
Not sure mumsnet is for me. Especially when people say I don't know Yorkshire

In respect of freedom of speech as anyone who has watched the leader of the opposition speak during PMQ's would know he is constantly shouted down and heckled.

That is PMQ's, don't take it seriously,the same happened to Cameron when they where in opposition. He is a career politician and plays the game as good as the rest. There are many sensible debates to be had on Parliment TV if your that interested in the weekly shouting match.
It is in no way a relevant comparison to freedom of speech.

Wow, some people are really rattled by Corbyn espousing something that is outside of the disasterous neo liberal economic model. An economic model that has seen public utilities sold off, the gap between rich and poor get wider and a record number of people reliant of food banks.

I agree there are many failings in the neoliberal model, and this is where I respect Corbyn for standing up to them, but for some reason it induces mental gymnastics in many of his supporters as what all neo-liberals want is to remain in europe, hence why he is a life long eurosceptic...

I hate the way you all attacked make and all defended a man I like dislike... Many of those like yourself and faith I recognised from EU boards I lurk on and thought here we go again.

I didn't 'attack' anyone - I invited a poster to condemn rather than condone the shouty-twat 'protester'.

I didn't 'defend' JRM - just his right to free speech.

Please don't make stuff up user.

It appears that the violence actually started due to a rightwinger (possibly connected to Rees-Mog) pushing a female protester:

Except it didn't.

Just keep posting 147.. I don't particularly agree with you but have a connection to where you are from and understand your frustration with the school your ds is at failing him? I don't think much to Jeremy's policies but interestingly my dd loves him and my db met him and interviewed him.

The Rees Mogg incident happened on the same day a man (influenced by right wing propaganda) was convicted for driving a van into a mosque.

It did.

And neatly shows how the far left & far right are not that different - both violent & against freedom & democracy.

Oh dear, a skwarkbox article has been linked unironically...

Momentum/Antifa defense force putting in hours it seems.

It is in no way a relevant comparison to freedom of speech.

Of course it is, even moreso. If you think people should be respected when speaking at a university or in the workplace then it should certainly apply to parliament. If MP's can't be bothered to respect the oppostion speakers why would you expect Joe Public?

mental gymnastics in many of his supporters as what all neo-liberals want is to remain in europe, hence why he is a life long eurosceptic..

because under a Tory government peddling Brexit neo liberalism and thus ordinary peoples lives will get worse. The great Brexit con job.

This is the first thread not on education and I truly wish I hadn't posted.

This thread is for everyone - just because posters don't agree with you doesn't mean you shouldn't have a voice.

The Rees Mogg incident happened on the same day a man (influenced by right wing propaganda) was convicted for driving a van into a mosque.

Your point is being what exactly? If you believe something come out and say it rather than cowardly hiding behind whataboutery.

GhostofFrankGrimes. If it was just JC, it wouldn't be a problem.

It's the insidious, anti-Semitic, misogynistic, bullying, terrorist-sympathising and frankly, terrifying Momentum 'friends', their leaders and their hoodied thug acquaintances and JC's refusal to condemn them, as they intimidate and floor all opposition to him and them.

Too many people who have been expelled from the Labour Party (for good reasons) have been readmitted, after Momentum members swept the board at CLP and NEC level.

Disingenuously denying all knowledge of 'dirty tactics', yet taking full advantage of them, these people have made a mockery of the democratic process and have destroyed the Labour Party I was once a member of.

JC and his evil thugs have rendered Labour unelectable as Militant did in the 80s.

And neatly shows how the far left & far right are not that different - both violent & against freedom & democracy.

Its not just the far right though is it?

"Crush the saboteurs"
"Enemies of the People"
"Breaking point"

All tactics designed to vilify people who hold a different view. From high court judges to civil servants. Cause division and hate. Create a toxic society.

Your point is being what exactly? If you believe something come out and say it rather than cowardly hiding behind whataboutery.

It hasn't even been established what happened beyond claims and counter claims. Darren Osborne has been convicted. We know what he did. It certainly wasn't a skirmish.

Too many people who have been expelled from the Labour Party (for good reasons) have been readmitted, after Momentum members swept the board at CLP and NEC level.

I agree. In the fact some people that have been allegedly let back in this week, give me chills.