AIBU to ask why you for Brexit?

[BillySmut56]

I'm politically neautral on Brexit, it's a complicated issue, but I'm interested in the consequences that are coming out now. If you voted for Brexit, what were your reasons?

The referendum was the result of an internal Tory party squabble.

No, it wasn't.

UKIP was on the rise & both Labour & Tories were getting twitchy about it.

The eurosceptic feeling began to really take hold within the wider population during labour's last tenure (rather than just the traditional left & right eurosceptics)

boney "You even have Cameron saying that its not as bad as it was advertised, yet the doom mongers are still out in force."
Cameron is not someone who, for me, reflects the lived experience of the many. He speaks posh tosh. The doom mongers shouldn't be silenced by his honeyed words. He's a balloon with a giant financial safety net.

Like the cut of your jib, Ghost and your tenacity. I'm worn out just reading the tosh you're refuting.x

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She's doing a rubbish job of refuting!!

Some people are easily impressed 🤣

ConfusedMumHere

The EU and EU law (that we helped shape) forced us to clean up our water/beaches it's in the process of forcing us to clean our air. All the evidence suggests we would never have done this if the EU didn't make us. Do you think we should have just lived with dirty water beaches and air? Genuine question btw. Also, did the Irish border and Gibraltar influence your vote at all and what were you thoughts?

Why would the eu pay uk farmers to Not produce if not to make us dependant?

Ghost My MA, CEng holding dh who was seconded to the EU and worked there voted leave. Don't be so sure about an EU military....research PESCO and look at the possibilities and ramifications thereof, bearing in mind that sections of the EC are inimical to NATO, and this is an EU military by the back door. Are you happy with Juncker and Mogherini controlling France's deterrent? That's where this is going.

This is the last I'll participate in. There's a thin line between education and indoctrination. Just think for yourselves. All media has an agender

I, a middle class, university educated white woman voted leave because

1. I believe the eu will implode within the next twenty years. Rather be out of that.
2. I would prefer global trade deals, global movement of people, which I think were hampered by our hands being so tied with Europe.
3. It was driving down wages. A middle aged man with a family to support can not take a job for £5 an hour, a 20 something no commitments polish man could.

4.the accounts of the eu unaudited, their members not elected by me. As can be seen by their ridiculous costs they're now suggesting to exit, they're just making it up as they go along. And they've had the power to.

1. I voted for change. Currently, The rich are getting richer, the poor poorer, I don't want that.
2. Little things : dh (a surgeon, also leave voter) says there's (good) procedures they're not allowed to do, as eu have banned a certain product, etc
3. twats like ghost who are so up their own arse, really really put me off voting remain

Well. Faith, people make unfounded assertions, like "The eurosceptic feeling began to really take hold within the wider population during labour's last tenure (rather than just the traditional left & right eurosceptics)" and weird post hoc wonderings - "Why would the eu pay uk farmers to Not produce if not to make us dependant?," (from Boys). Ghost patiently deals with such blurts, and often backs up her/his statements with that weird stuff...facts.

If the UK government wants to change a significant amount of laws and the EU says NO, I would say we have lost sovereignty.

If the UK citizens voted in a majority to kick an EU president or EU grouping out of power it has no impact on what happens in the EU. I would say the EU is not democratically accountable to the UK. Might be democratic to someone else but its not my idea of a democracy

You think it's a weird question to ask why the eu wants to make us dependant on foreign trade? Seriously, 😂

Julie, what are the laws you want changed?

twats like ghost who are so up their own arse, really really put me off voting remain
Couldn't agree more!

boys, I didn't ask that question. You seem to think the EU want us dependent. Anyhoo, I thought you'd baled out with ,"All media has an agender"... whatever that means.

arethere, not a scintilla of fact in your blether, and look at you, NK, nestled under her wing. Fair enough to disagree, but no need to be so rude. You won. Get over it.

I voted out, purely from an immigration point of view, the once nice town I come from is a cess pit of non working foreigners. I have no problem with people who come here and work, integrate and mix, but the ones locally are truly horrific and have no intention of working, our benefits are the reason they are here. I understand the local labour council took advantage of funding from central government to take these people.

Check you out you awesome speller l! I'll reply tomorrow it's late and I have work in the morning

boys, if you're post was to me, I'm not bothered about your spelling - I come from a family of dyslexics. I'm more bothered by your thinking, Good night, so!

boys "your post"

durgha
Julie, what are the laws you want changed?
Can you not read? I want to change where the laws are made and enforced. aka our parliament in the UK. Why do you prefer to be infantilized by the EU?

The op asked why because they were interested. This is not another debate or insult pit. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I voted leave as did my dh and if given the choice, my ds would have too.
Silvery has detailed a lot of the reasons that we also agreed with
And here are some more....
€114 million euros spent every year because the eu government have tied themselves into a never ending circle of transferring operations between two countries. This does not include the cost of running two empty buildings in the interim. Why? Because no one has the balls to say, this is stupid and outdated and a waste of money, sod the red tape, let's stop this now.
Turkey trying to hold the EU to ransom over future membership and the EU allowing them to. Not just from the media, from a Turkish university lecturer friend with close ties to the political scene over there)
EU government resisting reforms over and over again.
Certain members refusing to take refugees (notably those whose citizens were, not so long ago, welcomed and given sanctuary themselves) and No, EU sanctions have not worked on them to persuade them to change their minds.

Before I get eaten by vipers, I am not defending my decision. I do not have to, such is the joy of democracy. OP asked and I have answered.
Night night.

I don't think that it matters whether laws are made in Dublin, Glasgow, Birmingham, as long as they are agreed.What are the laws that you want changed, Julie? With reference to the devolved parliaments, where do you think legislation should take place?

Well. Faith, people make unfounded assertions, like "The eurosceptic feeling began to really take hold within the wider population during labour's last tenure (rather than just the traditional left & right eurosceptics)"

UKIP was founded in the early 90s & then rose in popularity significantly during Labour's tenure.
UKIP as a right wing eurosceptic party attracted previously labour voters to their cause, which led to their surge from 2013 onwards.

Not really an 'unfounded assertion' at all to equate growing support for UKIP with growing eurosceptic feeling.

Hoi! Jamie, that's the most reasonable account I've heard so far. I'm still a snowflake, and I'd argue that we should have stayed in and sorted stuff out. Night, night.

I already have a Town Council, a Parish Council, a Borough Council, a County Council then the Uk Government telling me how to be and what to do and taxing my earnings. These alone are excessive.
I don't need lots of people telling me what to do, i guess.