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To think this delusional dirty pervert should stay exactly where he is and starve if that's what he wants?

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QOFE · 27/01/2018 16:09

There is currently a delightful person on hunger strike because the prison service won't "recognise their gender" and send them to a women's prison.

see here

Nobody seems to want to mention the fact that they are in fact a sex offender and voyeur who broke into teenage girls bedrooms to wank into their underwear Hmm

Why the hell they think they should be in a women's prison is completely beyond me. Anyone able to enlighten me?

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OnTheList · 30/01/2018 19:27

She is apparently minimising (and taking a dig at transwomen) by talking about females being the victims of rape and male violence.

This is the endgame (along with, and I how I am wrong, normalizing pedophilia). Making male violence a thing thats even more unable to be spoken about. Crime stats messed up totally so that women and men are 'equal' in violence.

OnTheList · 30/01/2018 19:28

Ooh great minds, crosspost.

OnTheList · 30/01/2018 19:29

Also how was meant to be hope. Oh how I wish for an edit feature

UpstartCrow · 30/01/2018 19:29

balsamicbarbara That's exactly what 'homophobic' means. Its why in the US, 'gay panic' is a legal defense for killing gay or transgender sex partners.
'phobic' means 'having or involving an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.'

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 30/01/2018 19:31

AreYouOrHaveYouEverBeenATERF it is worrying, when someone can't talk about such a horrific crime without privileging the feelings of MRA/TRAs. However, I think most rational people are starting to see them for what they are, including the transpeople they claim to represent.

SimonBridges · 30/01/2018 19:44

Haha. That is really not what it means or do you think you need to be "afraid" of gay people to be homophobic?

Yes. It’s exactly what it means. Sometimes people’s fear of something causes them to lash out. See Islamaphobia for example.

I am not afraid of trans people. I am afraid of losing my rights and of our girls finding they are having the problems of growing up female belittled.

noeffingidea · 30/01/2018 19:46

I don't think Balsamicbarbara is any kind of authority on word definitions seeing as they failed to understand the correct meaning of the word woman.

BeyondWitchbitchterf · 30/01/2018 20:02

Definitionophobic.

Scabbersley · 30/01/2018 20:04

'phobic' means a fear of something, so 'ha ha' back to you Barbara

JAPAB · 30/01/2018 20:10

Words can evolve meanings beyond the literal sum of their constituent parts. Homophobia and transphobia can indeed mean things like prejudice and discrimination against these groups, deliberate misgendering and so on.

Scabbersley · 30/01/2018 20:13

Transphobia has to be the most over used word on the planet.

balsamicbarbara · 30/01/2018 20:14

Apparently they can't JAPAB. Apparently phobic means you have to be "scared" lol. Like some drunk guy kicking the living daylights out of a homosexual is "scared" of him.. or people making snide remarks about Muslims are "scared".. give me a break Grin

SimonBridges · 30/01/2018 20:20

It’s ok ladies. JAPAB has turned up to tell us all how wrong we all are.
Thank goodness there is a man here to set us all straight.

LangCleg · 30/01/2018 20:21

Look, Balsamicbarbara, it's really quite simple.

This sexual predator is the REASON PRISONS ARE SEX SEGREGATED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Not. Hard. To. Grasp.

ArcheryAnnie · 30/01/2018 20:21

I don't know why JAPAB and balsamicbarbara seem so keen on making comparisons between homophobia and transphobia, since trans activism is pretty horrifically homophobic for the most part.

QueenOfQuacks · 30/01/2018 20:26

Excuse me MNHQ but why was my post of 15.54 deleted? I don't think it broke any talk guidelines did it?

SimonBridges · 30/01/2018 20:26

Homophobia and transphobia can indeed mean things like prejudice and discrimination against these groups, deliberate misgendering and so on.

I will not be prejudice or discriminate against someone who is gay or trans. I will not deliberately misgender them.
Also I will not tolerate someone with a vagina being forced to be locked up in a room with someone who has a penis, who has committed a crime using that penis.

This person is a threat to people with vaginas. They should not be in a prison with people with vaginas no matter what they feel.

Punta · 30/01/2018 20:26

Some absolutely shocking examples of crimes against women by TIMS.

transcrimeuk.com/2017/11/25/idevaw-2017-naming-recording-male-violence-against-women-girls/

SimonBridges · 30/01/2018 20:28

Like some drunk guy kicking the living daylights out of a homosexual is "scared" of him.. or people making snide remarks about Muslims are "scared"

Yes. That is exactly what is happening. People are scared of things that they don’t understand. Scared doesn’t just mean jumping when you see a spider you know.

SchrodingersFrilledLizard · 30/01/2018 20:32

Thanks, Punta. Very interesting article.

Now, I'd like to see a corresponding article noting how many MITs were attacked / killed by women.

SchrodingersFrilledLizard · 30/01/2018 20:33

This sexual predator is the REASON PRISONS ARE SEX SEGREGATED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Not. Hard. To. Grasp.

It is for the hard-of-thinking.

newtlover · 30/01/2018 20:35

........tumbleweed

OnTheList · 30/01/2018 20:37

Transphobia has to be the most over used word on the planet.

Indeed it is. The word has no meaning at all to me anymore. when I see someone accused these days, I tend to just roll my eyes rather than try to find what they actually said that was 'transphobic'..as 99 times out of 100, the comment was anything but.

BiologyMatters · 30/01/2018 20:44

People that shout transphobe are really just femalephobic.

noeffingidea · 30/01/2018 20:45

If being opposed to male sexual offenders being placed in women's prisons equals transphobia then I'm proud to say I'm transphobic.