AIBU Trollhunting is ruining AIBU

[Trueheart1]

I understand troll hunting if the OP is giving dangerous advice. However, increasingly every single poster is being grilled by troll hunters about every aspect of their post. It makes a thread hard to follow and really boring to read.

I don't understand why the troll hunters do it, there is an easy to use report button. I have read several threads in the last week where the OP was subjected to constant snide comments about the veracity of their post. I think if these troll hunters persist then people won't want to post at all.

I think you should be more specific, @Caprinihahahaha. The made up scenarios split into CFs, goads and brags. There is overlap.

I’m sorry Paxillin . I cut trolly corners there

Cote. You seem to have such contempt for users and mnhq

Aka "you don't agree with me"

I think people forget that trolling is worse than trollhunting. When you walk down the street and someone keeps saying "turd, don't trod in, watch it, another turd..." do you have a go at them? Talking about turds is gross, stepping in is worse.

Nah, sorry. There's one well known troll that I will call every time and I won't stop doing it. If people are so stupid that they enable this person, every single fucking time, then it needs calling.

Cote has contempt for idiots as far as I can see, which isn’t necessarily synonymous with the above.

Cote well no, the cockroach thing was meant to wound, wasn't it? It's a bit slippery of you (or whoever) to juxtapose MNHQ and Mumsnet Complaints Department and they are, in effect one and the same, aren't they? Unless MNHQ stands for 'Mining National HeadQuarters'? But that that wouldn't fit the narrative, would it?

Mumsnet is a brand - MNHQ you/whoever might have got away with. But Mumsnet was used.

Don't try to paint it as something else now otherwise you'll spoil the 'maverick-ness' of it all; it was amusing in a pointed way. Stratters (who I have a lot of time for) presented it - and took the consequences. It was schoolgirl-ish and like school - shit happens.

I don't understand the premise of 'Reddit' really. I was directed there to look at some posts where I was mentioned. I went, saw, didn't know what the hell it was all about - and left. I've been ''invited' to join numerous times but I won't. There's too much talking about other posters here there. At least we do that up front and personal on Mumsnet and if you post like a dick you get told that here. I don't see what the attraction for Mumsnet is with Reddit posters but it's not mutual. Each to their own.

The cheerleaders are the ones on the fake CF threads and the blag office romance threads, they don’t need to be protected it’s just annoying.

Cote doesn't seem to me to have contempt for MN users at all. She seems to have the patience of a saint (though I know she wouldn't appreciate the comparison) in trying to explain quite simple concepts to even simpler people.

The OP of the food thread is not being called a troll if you RTFT. She is being called out on her smuggery, as are all the other smug boasters on the thread.

Re-reading Trueheart's OP about posters giving dangerous advice - I agree that it's possible to just post, for example, "That's really dangerous, I've been told x,y,z by my GP and I wouldn't follow Lying's' advice". There wouldn't be a need to troll-hunt the dangerous advice-giver.

Lying there’s more posts on reddit now about general chat and drinking rather than other posters..

My post honestly wasn't a criticism of Reddit, Dipping but it's not for me. As I said, I was directed to look at a thread where I was being heckled/mocked and I did. It looked like a lot of threads making fun of posters the Reddit members don't like here. There was nothing to say what my 'offence' was about so what's the point? That doesn't happen here. If you (general) have something to say then you say it and you reference the irksome post. I like that, and there's no feeling 'hierarchy' here.

I know some of the posters there post here so I'll see them on this board. I didn't recognise most if not all of the names there but I don't know everybody here either.

I'm really sorry that Stratters was the one to post the cockroach thing because I liked her posts here.

It'll be interesting to see how your 15:52 post is interpreted on reddit, Lying. I agree with you by the way.

Didn't we have almost exactly the same thread on here only about a month ago, started by PandorasXBox? I'm going to have a look and see what the conclusion was.

"It's a bit slippery of you (or whoever) to juxtapose MNHQ and Mumsnet Complaints Department"

Um... Did you mean differentiate instead of juxtapose?

I usually get blamed for being too direct, which is the exact opposite of "slippery", I think, but hey ho.

"Unless MNHQ stands for 'Mining National HeadQuarters'?"

What?

"I don't understand the premise of 'Reddit' really."

It is the world's largest online discussion forum, and the 8th most visited website in the world. The company is valued at about $1.8 billion. There isn't much more to be understood about it, really.

If you are talking about the Reddit sub that talks about MN threads (and apparently can't be linked to on this sub - the link inside my post downthread to the cockroach thread has somehow disappeared Who knew that MNHQ sometimes edit people's posts?): That is a place where people talk about stuff that happens here on MN.

"I've been ''invited' to join numerous times but I won't. "

You what?

Nobody is "invited" to join there. It's not a secret club or even a private sub. Anyone can rock up and subscribe, like with most other Reddit subs.

"At least we do that up front and personal on Mumsnet and if you post like a dick you get told that here. "

Surely you jest. You are talking about Ye Olde Days on MN when we could call someone a cunt and tell each other to fuck off to the far side of fuck, and when you get there, fuck off some more. These days, you get deleted for calling people a 'dick' here. If you do it often enough, you get banned.

No, I meant juxtapose. There is nothing to differentiate between the two; you meant Mumsnet-the-brand. Nothing else would make any sense would it?

I vaguely knew about Reddit but hadn't heard of Reddit Trolls until it was pointed out to me. Yes, a tiny little sub-forum. Got it. Yes, I'm talking about Cockroach-gate. Perhaps the 'cockroach' reference was less obvious than I'd hoped.

I put 'invited' in inverted commas as I thought it would be quite clear that I know that anybody can access Reddit and the Trolls bit without joining. Again, my mistake. No, I didn't think it was a proper invitation. I was asked - by several posters on this forum who presumably post there - to join the Trolls forum and chat there. Clear enough or do we need a diagram?

I ventured(?) onto the Trolls forum, saw that it mostly comprised of threads there ripping shreds out of disliked posters and poking 'fun' at the posters here - and MNHQ. That is what prompted my comment that you can tell posters here that you dislike what they say in a post without calling them names.

There is a 'private' area on the Trolls forum. Thank fuck that we don't have them here. Stinks of Moldies. Possibly explains why there are 100+ registered joiners though.

I don't know what the premise of Reddit 'Trolls' is or what its purpose is/was? To impotently troll-hunt where they can't do it for real? Kudos to them because I wouldn't be wasting my time doing that. For some reason, most of the troll-hunters I've seen on this board are under the impression that nobody but them does anything about the trolls but I've reported every single thread that I've thought was a troll. Mostly, from the deletion message, they're PBPs as well. Since no poster has access to the 'delete thread button', what's the point of troll-hunting? I know how it is, I've done it myself, several times, when I've been infuriated but it doesn't speed the thread deletion up any. You do it at your peril though, we all know that.

Horses for courses on the 'posting like a dick' front. I've been pulled up on my posting before. Sometimes because I was posting like a dick. I don't have a problem with somebody telling me that, I mostly will apologise for it. I certainly wouldn't report it. I've told other people that they're posting dickishly when they are. The only times I've had 'Mumsnet Calling' was when I troll-hunted. I don't do it often; MNHQ are shit-hot on it and it's in the TOR so fair enough as far as I'm concerned.

What else was there? Oh yes, I don't know what your experience of MN is, I only know my own. I like the fact that there isn't a hierarchy of posters here, there's no 'Head Girl' flavour that I can discern other than the odd 'thread policeman' who gets pulled up on it, but certainly no subservience. I really couldn't stand that.

I don't know what the fascination is with Mumsnet. If I could post here, I would but if I couldn't post here I wouldn't be pressing my nose against the window to see what was going on.

I hope I've explained to your satisfaction. I promise I won't 'join'. I don't namechange ever so if you see 'LyingWitch' on there then feel free to kick her off.

Maybe not for registered users; perhaps just for random people who just access the board?

I'd really like Stratters to be able to post here again. I was on 'that' thread and I thought she'd been 'egged on'; it went too far.

There isn’t a private part of the mnTrolls reddit btw that’s a lie.

Ok Dipping, I will take your word for it, sorry for casting aspersions...

"There is nothing to differentiate between the two; you meant Mumsnet-the-brand. "

No, I didn't. Neither did Stratters. Read Dixie's post, which explains it clearly.

"There is a 'private' area on the Trolls forum."

No, there really isn't.

"Possibly explains why there are 100+ registered joiners though."

It's more like 1,500+ as of today. No, your imaginary "private area" doesn't explain the number of people on that sub.

"I don't know what the premise of Reddit 'Trolls' is or what its purpose is/was?"

I guess you weren't around during the D&C saga. Some people got upset that they couldn't talk about what was happening on here and set up that sub. (No, I wasn't one of them.)

"Oh yes, I don't know what your experience of MN is, I only know my own."

Good to hear. My experience is pretty good, thank you. I don't remember asking for yours but thanks for sharing anyway.

"I promise I won't 'join'. I don't namechange ever so if you see 'LyingWitch' on there then feel free to kick her off."

Do as you please. I couldn't care less and couldn't possibly kick anyone off, anyway