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The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger

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PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 12:14

Apparently this has already happened, back in July 2017. Shock

But the orange one try again...

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

Coverage by Maddow: twitter.com/maddow?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 06:38

[and given that after his account was temporarily taken offline Hannity messaged back someone pretending to be Assange and seemed to understand what fake Assange meant when he said to use "other channels" to communicate, it's pretty likely that the real Assange is in touch with Hannity, and so is therefore probably guiding Don's message too]

Sean Hannity Has Been Advising Donald Trump on the Nunes Memo, Because of Course He Has

www.thedailybeast.com/sean-hannity-has-been-advising-donald-trump-on-the-nunes-memo-because-of-course-he-has/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 06:59

In today's slide towards authoritarianism roundup:

ICE

Yashar Ali 🐘
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New: Federal immigration agents raided 77 businesses in Northern California this week, demanding proof that their employees are legally allowed to work in the US.. The businesses were given three working days to comply with the order. @Haleaziz reports

www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/ICE-workplace-sweep-hits-Northern-California-12544863.php

And

ICE to Pay Private Sector for Each Deportation Officer It Helps the Agency Hire

www.govexec.com/management/2018/02/ice-pay-private-sector-each-deportation-officer-it-helps-agency-hire/145667/?oref=ge-android-article-share

And

Daniel Dale
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After criticism, ICE promises it won't do sweeps in courthouses - might go arrest specific people there, but won't pick up their relatives, friends or others.

www.sfgate.com/nation/article/ICE-says-it-won-t-make-immigration-sweeps-at-12541505.php

And

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ICE has arrested a U.S. army veteran who served two tours of duty in Afghanistan and has two U.S. citizen children. His name is Miguel Perez Jr. and he has lived in the U.S. since he was 8 years old

www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-green-card-veteran-hunger-strike-20180131-story.html

And

CoochieFrito 🇩🇴
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y'all. Border Patrol got on this Amtrak train asking SOME people (ME) if we are American citizens.

twitter.com/rosequartzpapi/status/959126336169283584

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 08:53

There have been widespread reports of ICE boarding buses and trains, checking for ID. This is getting quite scary. It's getting more and more like Nazi Germany every day where people have to carry their papers.

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 08:54

Walter Shaub

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How is it that Donald the Lesser supposedly knows something about McCabe that only his daddy, Donald the Insecure, would know? Isn't he supposed to be managing daddy's fake blind trust behind that big beautiful wall separating daddy's rancid conflicts of interest from government?

Natsku · 02/02/2018 11:28

There have been widespread reports of ICE boarding buses and trains, checking for ID. This is getting quite scary. It's getting more and more like Nazi Germany every day where people have to carry their papers.

That is disturbing. Now I'm seeing the slip into dictatorship/fascism more and more, very worrying.

My brother's extradition verdict is being handed down on Monday, please all think your most positive thoughts for it.

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 14:08

Something to consider.....

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When you compare the size of a gummy worm versus a gummy bear, it starts to paint a horrific picture of the gummy universe.

cozietoesie · 02/02/2018 14:41

You'll be ........surprised by this CNN Money piece.

Exxon and the tax cut

PerkingFaintly · 02/02/2018 14:43

Oh heavens, Natsku. Will be thinking of him and all your family.Thanks

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GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 15:10

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It's a lovely bit of husband-trolling that Melania Trump only follows five people and one of them is Barack Obama.

7:07 AM - 2 Feb 2018

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 15:57

Keeping everything crossed for you all nat

While You Are Tweeting About the Nunes Memo, Russia Is Plotting Its Midterms Attack

The point is distraction. And it’s working dangerously well.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/02/while-you-are-tweeting-about-the-nunes-memo-russia-is-plotting-its-midterms-attack/

And

Amy Siskind
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This is the main story folks, not the Nunes distraction: the Trump regime is refusing to impose sanctions on Russia despite almost unanimous approval by our Congress - instead coming up with nonsensical excuses.

Russian Debt Market May Be Too Big to Sanction, Treasury Warns

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-02/treasury-warns-of-widespread-effects-of-russian-debt-sanctions

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 16:39

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Sen. Orrin Hatch says he has confidence in Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein but said Trump may have to get rid of him if he becomes too controversial and can’t oversee the investigation.

8:30 AM - 2 Feb 2018

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 17:16

www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-intel-memo-released-what-it-says/article/2647937

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BREAKING: Trump addressing newly declassified GOP memo alleging FBI abuses: ‘A lot of people should be ashamed of themselves’

AcrossthePond55 · 02/02/2018 17:25

Came here to post about the release. All over the news, naturally, but I've yet to find a copy of the actual document online. I suppose it'll show up soon.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 17:29

Michael Beschloss
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AP’s Jonathan Lemire reports that in Oval Office, Trump was just asked if he was more likely to fire Rosenstein and if he still had confidence in him, and that President said, "You figure that one out."

Gumpendorf · 02/02/2018 17:30

lawfareblog.com/document-nunes-memo

Gumpendorf · 02/02/2018 17:35

Remember that story from way back that WaPo had transcripts of tapes incriminating Trump. Would now be a good time to run the story? Grin

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 17:37

Axios

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Read the memo www.axios.com/read-the-nunes-memo-unredacted-b4531cc7-5e82-4c63-b48d-5c93132f42ef.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100&utm_term=politics … pic.twitter.com/DjXKQVEzK9

Gumpendorf · 02/02/2018 17:40

Stephanie Ruhle @SRuhle

WSJ's review of 7.000 (!) text messages between FBI Agent Peter Strzok and lawyer Lisa Page show no evidence of a conspiracy against President Trump. wsj.com/articles/insid… by @DelWilber

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 17:41

Kyle Griffin

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Statement from the FBI Agents Association: “FBI Special Agents have not, and will not, allow partisan politics to distract us from our solemn commitment to our mission.” pic.twitter.com/FbIVeuQVN7

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 17:46

Rep. Jamie Raskin

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Our statement on the Nunes Memo: House GOP complicit in efforts to obstruct justice: bit.ly/2GGV7qd . #MemoDay pic.twitter.com/KIpOtSRGmL

AcrossthePond55 · 02/02/2018 18:03

Thank you to those who have posted to the memo.

I'm not a legal-beagle but it seems like a lot of clutching at (Steele) straws. Am I the only one who thinks this?

Nothing in there actually discredits the Steele memo in its entirety. Which of course leaves the possibility that information proven true in the memo was the basis for the FISA warrant as opposed to the entire memo itself. And information proven true is still true even if it comes from a possibly dubious source.

Maybe I'm just hoping that this all explodes in Nunes and/or the GOP's face.

AcrossthePond55 · 02/02/2018 18:08

Thank you for posting the Dem IC response Ginger.

The memo and response have been texted to just about everyone on my contacts list. (I'm not on FB)

BiglyBadgers · 02/02/2018 18:13

Here is a link to the memo for anyone who still hasn't found it

apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/national/read-the-gop-memo/2746/

BiglyBadgers · 02/02/2018 18:14

Sorry just realised ginger already posted it Blush

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