To be furious?! Women's march?

[Goldmonday]

Have been seeing posts like this being thrown round on social media the past couple of days....am I the only one who thinks the whole world has gone bananas and we are now taking a huge step backwards???

toconclude How can you say that, can you not read?

So trans women are being denied abortions? For all the unwanted pregnancies they have? Wtf is this shit?

On top of that I meant to say in my last sentence...

Does Planed Parenthood provide genes reassignment services in America? Can't think of any other reason a trans women would need their services, to get condoms maybe?

I think it's perfectly clear. It's about white women not recognising their privilege. It's from the USA (native refers to native American, not native British which would of course include women of all races ( where 57% of white women voted for Trump. Women of colour face different, greater challenges than white women. I don't see the problem with recognising that.

heartoffire I don't usually use it myself, but cis is taken to mean women who were assigned female at birth, have grown up as girls/women and consider themselves to be women/female now. I think. I only used it because it's in the article. Not sure if your annoyance is directed at me or the contents of the original post

Sorry, gender reassignment!

I agree LivLemler - however it does paint white women as the chittering masses who live party animal lives and have no problems. Obviously my own life is exactly like that but I think for a large number of white women it simply isn't. The post simply sows resentment and dissent.

YABU to use the term 'cis'

YABVU to think that white women don't have a right to march against sexual assault, just because they don't also run the risk of being deported.

No LaContess sorry not aimed at you at all thanks for clarifying

I can't get past what "lifesaving services" Planned Parenthood could possibly offer to transwomen. Their main life-saving service is an abortion and since trans"women" can't get pregnant...

As someone above said, it's from the USA. There is huge disquiet that crimes against Native American women are not even investigated; likewise in Canada for the First Nations women.

Planned Parenthood isn't the same as our Family Planning Clinics. They may well have started out that way but they provide a wide variety of medical services to those who would otherwise not be able to afford them. Trump has caused funding to be dramatically cut and it has just been brought in that anyone can refuse to give medical care to anyone in the LGBGTQ community. In other words, you can be dying and an ambulance or doctor will refuse care because you are gay or trans; this has already happened to several trans women in the USA.

I find this meme offensive because it insinuates that, as a white woman, I don't care about the whole gamut of women's rights and plain human rights. I can't understand what it is like to be black, gay or trans, but I will fight for their human rights and women's right all the bloody same. I just wish that some people would actually pay attention to what the fuck is going on around the world.

@livlemler I agree WOC face additional problems white women don’t and have no issue recognising that, but the way this post is phrased is incredibly provocative and dismissive of the concerns which do affect white women.

Heartoffire understood!

Oh for fuck's sake. Planned Parenthood is not just "condoms or something". Not just a family planning clinic. I realise that we don't have it in the UK but some posters are clearly not aware of what the organisation does. It's not just contraception and abortions. It's mammograms, it's smear tests. That's why a trans man would want to attend. Because yes, they exist. A transwoman may also attend for a mammogram, because they have breasts that can get breast cancer. For STD tests. Fertility. The name is somewhat misleading, but I wish we had PP clinics in the UK. They do a wonderful job for all genders.

The issue this post is bringing up is the general indifference from white cisgender women who only appear to care about themselves, when intersectionality is so vitally important.

If it was about white women recognizing the privileged of belonging to the dominant ethnic group then it would be better to say so. It mainly appears to be a bunch of lazy racial stereotypes none of which have nothing to do with being female. So essentially it boils down to the idea that the women's marchers have no right to raise issues to do with being female (racism, anti-immigration, ecological concerns are all OK though). As white women can't apparently claim any other type of oppression or have any other concerns they therefore should be insulted. That those insults are purely on the basis of sex shows up that the writers don't in fact care about any issues except for their own, and to boot are misogynist. Which to me reinforces any ideas I might have previously had about not centering trans rights, and thinking that transactivists are a really unpleasant group of people that I'd like to keep the biggest distance from as possible. It's not really 'how to make friends and influence people' is it?

No idea what they are talking about.

Rise above it sisters and brothers!

and as a cisgender white woman, I don't find this offensive in the slightest, because I see how my peers act.

My womanhood is not threatened by trans women, or being referred to as "cis", and I am happy for them to speak for me in politics. I am a cisgender woman, and some of my peers make me feel ashamed of that because of how they treat others.

Freud was probably wrong about penis envy and I'm almost certainly wrong about pink pussy envy. Doesn't stop me wondering though... 'Politics of envy' is the charge deployed against the politics of fairness. It's true that intersectional issues are too easily overlooked. Even so, there sure are a fair number of penis havers real goady fuckers stirring it up in feminism and I don't even think they have the best interests of all transwomen at heart, let alone women of whatever colour.

White middle class women are the only female demographic that has any social or economic power to challenge things structurally, so of course we need to sit down and shut up and of course other women need to see us as the enemy - would be a bad day at the office for the patriarchy if women were allowed to band together and organise.

Interestingly, I was reading something a while back about the role of eunuchs in ancient China and one of their main roles was to form alliances with and to cultivate factions amongst the many, many wives, especially the favoured wives. It was very Game of Thrones by all accounts with eunuchs engineering assassinations and assorted skullduggery. Non-men sabotaging women's ability to band together against their oppressors, lucky for us that doesn't happen anymore, huh?

Just throwing that out there.

The stereotyping of native Americans is quite yuck too. They suffer terrible discrimination but they are romantically solely concerned with ecology

This is trying to explain intersectional feminism.. Like it or not but as cis white women we are privileged. I don't agree with the wording of this but I do agree we should as feminists look out for other groups of women who don't have that privilege.

Another moment of "I don't understand what is or isn't satire any more".