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... to feel disgusted at fox-chasing toff-twits!

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counterpoint · 13/01/2018 21:44

On my way to a local town for lunch today, we had to slow down and stop as a horse came galloping up towards us in the middle of the road. On his back sat a dandified twit who was looking for his hounds. In the nearby field some 100 (I kid you not) other starched twits sat on brainwashed horses with hungry hounds running amok. Traffic swayed and stopped as these twits had clearly lost the little sense they had and were dispersing all over the highway, horses looking dazed at being led among cars at great speed on slippery tarmac. Hounds confusedly sniffing all over the road and verges. How much had these twit-toffs drunk? It was not yet noon!

My friends in our car tried to calm me down saying it must be a drag when all of a sudden a poor defenseless fox jumped on the dry-stone wall looking wild-eyed as it tried to determine whether he was safer making a run for it across a busy road or turn back into a field of crazed, uncontrolled hounds and drunken (British?) twits. The fox froze and the driver of my car sped on as I screamed with panic for the predictable fate of the fox.

Why the f*ck is a supposedly civilized country allowing this kind of savagery to continue?

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BumpowderSneezeonAndSnot · 13/01/2018 22:09

I know it's not an argument it's a question to our illustrious OP. Sabs do injure horses hounds and riders.

Rebeccaslicker · 13/01/2018 22:10

Choude - if you eat what you shoot, and kill no more wild birds than that, then no, I don't have a problem with it, although I couldn't do it mysel (been a veggie for 30 years!).

If you go to commercial shoots and compete to kill as many half tame and totally stupid birds as possible, and actively enjoy killing them, then that's disgusting.

Frillyhorseyknickers · 13/01/2018 22:10

Isn’t it illegal now?
Hunting love wuarry is illegal as per the 2004 Hunting Act.

Standing on a road trying to call hounds back doesn’t sound like a particularly illegal activity, just not a particularly sensible exercise.

Whilst hunts operate within the law and lay trail scents, there are a lot of foxes buggering about in the countryside and on occasion hounds will lift from the laid trail onto a live scent - I suppose it’s what a pack of foxhounds were bred for.

BumpowderSneezeonAndSnot · 13/01/2018 22:11

Where in the country was this hunt btw I'll be interested if other MNers saw it given it was clearly so disruptive i would imagine it would be talk of the town.

Cake2018 · 13/01/2018 22:12

ChoudeBruxelles I think she meant the sort of twits who shoot as many Birds as possible for fun (sick). My husband used to work on a farm as a boy. His job was to collect all the pheasants that were shot. There would be so many and the fuckers never ate them, it was always just for fun.

Marymaymay · 13/01/2018 22:12

@bumpowdersneezeonandsnot

Why is what hunt sabs do relevant to this conversation?

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counterpoint · 13/01/2018 22:13

Isn’t it illegal now? So you could report to the police? They’d do fuck all but it’s a report on record

Hiya - yes, I have some photos and a snippet of video taken whilst my friends were saying "it must be a drag, don't worry, fox-hunting is illegal" shortly before we saw the fox. Unfortunately, I was so shocked and the driver by then sped away and I didn't get a photo of the fox - I was quite emotional by this stage.
I know the exact location and time and there were so many of them a record should be made of the danger they put everyone to - let alone the illegal chasing of the fox.
I'll report tomorrow.

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BumpowderSneezeonAndSnot · 13/01/2018 22:13

Because the OP strikes me as being selective with her animal welfare causes.

mustbemad17 · 13/01/2018 22:14

I've not seen sabs wilfully injuring hounds or horses - have seen many incidences where sabs have collected injured hounds left to die - but if they do this then they are no better. The behaviour of the hunt does not excuse anybody from injuring the horses/hounds. Definitely isn't their fault they're being ridden/trained by barbarians!!

HarrietSchulenberg · 13/01/2018 22:14

I used to regularly bump into one of two local hunts on my way to work when I had a late weekday start. That lot couldn't control a hamster in a wheel let alone a pack of hounds; they were all over the road, hounds streaming everywhere, and everyone had to stop while they shambled through the lanes, up hedges, into gateways and scrabbling in ditches. If a cat or pet dog had got in the way it wouldn't have stood a chance as the masters simply had no control, or if they did they didn't exert it.

Research shows that hunting with hounds has no significant impact on the fox population and some hunts have been known to actually breed them for "training" purposes. To claim fox hunting is anything other than sport is untrue, and as a sport it is utterly barbaric.

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counterpoint · 13/01/2018 22:15

Where in the country was this hunt btw I'll be interested if other MNers saw it given it was clearly so disruptive i would imagine it would be talk of the town.

It was on the A46 around noon.

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Marymaymay · 13/01/2018 22:15

I live a rural area, very well known for hunting. I’ve seen this several times since the ban came in. There have been several convictions for illegal hunting in my area.

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counterpoint · 13/01/2018 22:16

Because the OP strikes me as being selective with her animal welfare causes.

How so?

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LadyDeadpool · 13/01/2018 22:19

Celia Hammond rescues cats were also terrorized by twits on horseback I think there are still 9 cats missing in fact. These idiots only think of themselves the law doesn't deal with them even when they attack sabs. Seems you can buy the law if it only involves psychopathic tendencies towards animals.

Marymaymay · 13/01/2018 22:20

bumpowdersneezeonandsnot

Sorry, so just to understand, you think that either

a) the OP has no right to criticise people who kill animals for fun because of the actions of other people she doesn’t know or necessarily agree with (hunt sabs).

Or

b) that no one has the right to criticise people for hunting animals for fun cos actually you quite enjoy it.

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counterpoint · 13/01/2018 22:21

@counterpoint what are your views of hunt sabetours wilfully injuring horses and hounds?

I don't know that any would do such a thing. More likely the twits would willfully injure their own dogs and horses too.

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mustbemad17 · 13/01/2018 22:21

Lady as of 7.30pm today there are seven cats still missing. I believe the CHAT have lodged a complaint about the out of control hounds...will be interesting to see the outcome.
Have also seen lots of excuses by hunt pros about how this happened...nobody as yet has put their hands up & admitted they fucked up

Cake2018 · 13/01/2018 22:23

mustbemad17 That’s because they don’t care and probably quite enjoy the fact that cats have been ripped apart. This is the sort of things pro hunt people like seeing

Chrys2017 · 13/01/2018 22:24

Why didn't you stop and give the fox a ride in your car if it upset you so much?
Take a leaf out of this lady's book:

mustbemad17 · 13/01/2018 22:25

Cake sadly you appear to be right. I think until hounds come under the same stipulations as average joe dogs then nothing will change. Clearly the current laws mean jack shit

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counterpoint · 13/01/2018 22:29

Why didn't you stop and give the fox a ride in your car if it upset you so much?

I wasn't in the driving seat or I would have done.

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Frillyhorseyknickers · 13/01/2018 22:30

I've not seen sabs wilfully injuring hounds or horses - have seen many incidences where sabs have collected injured hounds left to die

I have hunted with several packs over 30years and I have never known or heard of a huntsman who would leave a hound anywhere - please provide evidence of this proof.

Sabs called hounds over a busy A road three seasons ago and cheered when one was hit by a car - they are not animal rights activists - Just hooligans spoiling for a fight.

mustbemad17 · 13/01/2018 22:31

Frilly there are rescue groups up & down the country that currently have to deal with injured & neglected hunt hounds. Some of them have been in absolutely disgusting states.

MoonfaceAndSilky · 13/01/2018 22:32

Absolute scum. How come if I had an out of control dog I would be fined and the dog put down but these cunts can have a whole pack terrorizing the local wildlife and that's somehow ok?
Bastards the lot of themAngry