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... to feel disgusted at fox-chasing toff-twits!

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counterpoint · 13/01/2018 21:44

On my way to a local town for lunch today, we had to slow down and stop as a horse came galloping up towards us in the middle of the road. On his back sat a dandified twit who was looking for his hounds. In the nearby field some 100 (I kid you not) other starched twits sat on brainwashed horses with hungry hounds running amok. Traffic swayed and stopped as these twits had clearly lost the little sense they had and were dispersing all over the highway, horses looking dazed at being led among cars at great speed on slippery tarmac. Hounds confusedly sniffing all over the road and verges. How much had these twit-toffs drunk? It was not yet noon!

My friends in our car tried to calm me down saying it must be a drag when all of a sudden a poor defenseless fox jumped on the dry-stone wall looking wild-eyed as it tried to determine whether he was safer making a run for it across a busy road or turn back into a field of crazed, uncontrolled hounds and drunken (British?) twits. The fox froze and the driver of my car sped on as I screamed with panic for the predictable fate of the fox.

Why the f*ck is a supposedly civilized country allowing this kind of savagery to continue?

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counterpoint · 15/01/2018 18:35

EggsonHeads "Are you sure they were toffs? Toffs usually have the good sense (and large enough estates) not to go fox hunting on a road."

Good sense? No, that's why these ones are twits!

Estates? They acted like they own the whole countryside. Maybe they do have 'ownership' of land ... but I, and every other species own this planet.

However, no matter the size of their estates, they had clearly lost control and the whole thing looked like a chaotic mess. Hounds and horses (and what I know now must have been a terrier-man) were criss-crossing the A road like they owned that too in complete disregard that our taxed vehicles had a legitimate right to safely use the road to get from A to B for lunch.

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StarkDismay · 15/01/2018 18:36

With reference to the head cam video, this is what most people want to be doing - no one gets off on standing around waiting for hounds to be pulled out of a garden because someone has mischievously lured them somewhere they shouldn't be.

Middleoftheroad · 15/01/2018 18:36

@counterpoint

It's a convenient story isn't it?

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counterpoint · 15/01/2018 18:45

@StarkDismay I'll just say it again - the average hunt follower does not see nor take part in any ripping apart of anything.

"... the average follower does not see ..." Yes, there were some 100 followers. The hounds were in one place and the followers were in another. The fact they (followers) did not get a front-seat view of the fox does not erase what actually happens.

"... nor take part in any ripping apart of anything." No, the hounds not the followers do the ripping apart .... or is there something you're not telling us?

I'm sensing some equivocation in your posts as though you have previously had to construct a defence for this indefensible savagery.

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Blemnblep · 15/01/2018 19:01

, However, no matter the size of their estates, they had clearly lost control and the whole thing looked like a chaotic mess*

LOL.

Yes, life with horses often resembles a chaotic mess. Some.of us don't mind it.

Blemnblep · 15/01/2018 19:06

Hopefully hunting will go on as it is now. Legally. Can't see anything changing in the near future. It will never be completely banned or policed as there aren't enough resources, although I wouldn't mind it policed as the sabs behaviour is worse. Sorry if you hate it but you are just going to have to live with it I'm afraid.

Subtleconstraints · 15/01/2018 19:10

To put the other side of the argument, where I live in the country side (abroad) there are absolutely no foxes at all because they have all been shot by farmers. They have literally all been obliterated. I know it is counter-intuitive, but fox populations often thrived better in the past in areas where there was a well run hunt (a) because the hunt only picked off the elderly, lame, sick and wasn't a particularly effective means of control (I seem to remember the average figure in my youth was one kill in eleven hunts) and (b) because the hunt had an interest -ironically some might say - in managing and protecting fox populations and habitats.

Fueledwithfairydustandgin · 15/01/2018 19:16

I've just checked and I have about 7 localish hunts and not one are drag/bloodhound packs.

Also no one answered about the terriermen?
And I would also like to ask if the people that hunt think it's so important that the foxes aren't killed while they may have young why do they then go cubbing? Also surely this goes against the argument that the young fit ones can escape?

LizzieSiddal · 15/01/2018 19:18

"Are you sure they were toffs? Toffs usually have the good sense (and large enough estates) not to go fox hunting on a road."

Hahaha

They think they own the public road! Our village council complained to the local hunt (Quite a thing to do when the “toffs” in the hunt own half the village) because they kept galloping across the bloody road.
My experiences were twice nearly running into a horse and rider as they crossed one field into another, across a public lane, without slowing down. They are arrogant idiots.

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counterpoint · 15/01/2018 19:19

Yes, life with horses often resembles a chaotic mess. Some.of us don't mind it.

It's all about you, right. I'm sure it didn't do that poor horses any good to be galloped on tarmac. Nor were the drivers, who came face to face with out-of control horses and hounds, left as blissfully happy as pigs-in-mud like you so blithely proclaim you are.

Oh, for the brain of a twit such that I can seize to mind!

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ArabellaHorseyHorsey · 15/01/2018 19:29

Hey! You there! Yes, you! Look at me OP when I'm talking to you!

It's all about me.... well, let me tell you that it doesn't matter how entitled you think you are - you'll never be as entitled as ME!!

🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎

ArabellaHorseyHorsey · 15/01/2018 19:29

Hey! You there! Yes, you! Look at me OP when I'm talking to you!

It's all about me.... well, let me tell you that it doesn't matter how entitled you think you are - you'll never be as entitled as ME!!

🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎

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counterpoint · 15/01/2018 19:29

@ Middleoftheroad It's a convenient story isn't it?

For sure, Mid. We are dealing with people who blissfully break the law. People who think they are above the law of the land. People who expect to be unaccountable to the laws of nature.
Fabrications are nothing to such people.

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ArabellaHorseyHorsey · 15/01/2018 19:37

And do learn how fast a gallop is, there's a love 💋

ArabellaHorseyHorsey · 15/01/2018 19:37

And do learn how fast a gallop is, there's a love 💋

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counterpoint · 15/01/2018 19:41

Arabella, are you pilfering the horses' pills?

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ArabellaHorseyHorsey · 15/01/2018 19:45
LizzieSiddal · 15/01/2018 20:05

ArabellaHorseyHorsey

“”

I expect you have been Arabella.Hmm

ArabellaHorseyHorsey · 15/01/2018 20:29

Well, Arabella is my name, so your point is....?

ArabellaHorseyHorsey · 15/01/2018 20:30

I expect you have been Lizzie too, because that is your name also.

LizzieSiddal · 15/01/2018 20:33

Yes it is, she would have hated fox hunting though. Smile

Middleoftheroad · 15/01/2018 20:50

It's sad that this is a joke to some (fortunately a minority).

I see no humour in the enjoyment of cowardly humans getting off on chasing down one animal to see it ripped apart and then gloat.

It's wrong and they know it - hence some of the retorts, sorry, snorts.

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counterpoint · 15/01/2018 22:47

After some googling, I worked out it was likely to be one of two hunts that usually infest that area. Judging from the sheer number of mounted 'followers', I think I know which hunt it is now. Shame on you all.

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Ilovesliz · 16/01/2018 07:07

You've got a lot of time on your hands. How about spending it widely?

Middleoftheroad · 16/01/2018 07:32

Hmm tine spent wisely....

Remind us.. just exactly how long does it take to chase down a single, petrified fox and rip it apart just to boost the human ego? Is it quicker than say putting an old fox out of its misery with one person and one shotgun?