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To think Oprah being the potus would be amazing

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Ieatcake · 08/01/2018 23:06

Female, black and lesbian would restore my faith in the world. Trump's supporters would hate that and she seems far more suited than him. She would walk it right?

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Fionne · 09/01/2018 19:02

Did anyone see her speach?

Yes and it was an Oscar winning performance Hmm

TSSDNCOP · 09/01/2018 19:03

I was having a POTUS/George CLooney chances conversation with DH the other day. I can’t see either Party seriously endorsing another celebrity. The next candidates have to be literally the opposite of Trump surely: measured, cerebral, experienced, diplomatic, not orange and with non-preposterous hair.

Fekko · 09/01/2018 19:03

She has done a bit of acting in her time...

DrMarthaJones · 09/01/2018 19:11

I live in the USA and I’m not sure the UK’s current political situation gives us the right to be sniffy about American voting

Oh I think it does. Brexit is lunacy but its not going to lead to WW3 in the way that orange buffoon easily could.

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Ieatcake · 09/01/2018 19:49

Nope, I don't. Sanders would be considered a fairly centerist politician in Europe. In many ways he offers less to his country's poor than my country's centre right government led by a mixed race, openly gay man offers ours. But in the US Sanders is considered an extreme left wing choice.

Exactly, let's face it the three main contenders could be Kanye, trump and Oprah. I think she's the best out of them and better than handing it to the same families with leaders that have been pretty stupid (like bush!)..

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Roussette · 09/01/2018 20:54

So let's vote for someone YET AGAIN who is a sleb and has no experience... yeah right....

HipNewName · 10/01/2018 05:15

@vwlphb I’m going with the idea that it’s bad to let Americans vote

This is a hateful thing to say, and it also shows a lack of understanding about how the US system works. Trump lost the popular election. The real problem here is the "electoral college," which is an archaic system that dates back to 1787 and desperately needs to be done away with.

I can't stand Trump, and I live in the US so I'm really stuck with him. I'm still in shock that we have a president who said "grab them by the pussy." But the majority of Americans didn't vote for him.

Oprah is at least a humanitarian, but she wouldn't have a clue how to run the government. One of the things that is keeping the situation with Trump currently at bay is that he can't get legislation passed. The republicans control both the Senate and the House, and they still can't get much done (thank god). Trump doesn't have a clue how our government works, and neither would Oprah.

CrazyExIngenue · 10/01/2018 05:24

Exactly, let's face it the three main contenders could be Kanye, trump and Oprah

Dear God, no they aren't! They won't make it past the primaries! The 3 main candidates for 2020 are Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren.

Democratic voters AREN'T Republican voters, they are generally educated, middle class, minorities from cities. They don't vote in celebrities.

Trump is in due to flaws in how the electoral college is structured, not because Americans are idiots. The majority of Americans voted for Hillary.

Trump got in the same way George W. Bush did, through the electoral college, not because he was the most popular candidate.

HipNewName · 10/01/2018 05:27

better than handing it to the same families with leaders that have been pretty stupid (like bush!)

I'm not a Republican, but I would take Jeb Bush over any of the 3 people you listed any day of the week. He is a former governor so he would have a clue how to do the job, he speaks Spanish fluently, and he has an IQ above plant life. His wife is from Mexico, and he breaks with his party on immigration issues. It's nice.

I disagree with him on many issues, but he would be make a far better president than any one you listed.

Honestly, I find Brits saying which celebrity should be POTUS about as absurd as if Americans started suggesting Jeremy Clarkson for PM. A lot of Americans really like him, but it doesn't follow that he should run your country.

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vwlphb · 10/01/2018 06:18

@HipNewName It’s not hateful, it was somewhat wry.

I actually understand perfectly well how the electoral college system works and also why it has been retained for nearly 250 years and not voted out decades ago... do you?

As for the majority of Americans not electing Trump, it’s a possibility in numerous electoral systems that the elected governmental leader (or their party) does not receive a raw majority of votes. That’s not just the electoral college system.

What’s more concerning to me is that your election came down to a rich man with zero political background and the wife of a former president. In a country with 370 million people it is frankly chilling that those are the best two options for president and shows a profound disengagement with genuine policy in favourite of personality across the entire nation.

Roussette · 10/01/2018 06:55

Honestly, I find Brits saying which celebrity should be POTUS about as absurd as if Americans started suggesting Jeremy Clarkson for PM. A lot of Americans really like him, but it doesn't follow that he should run your country
Totally agree with you and I'm not even American!

It's not a choice just between a sleb or a family politician. There's in between. I'm very prolific on Trump threads and for the first time ever, I'm with Trump on ths one. He said yesterday 'Oprah won't be running'. Let's hope. I'm with Joe Biden or Elizabeth as I think Bernie is probably too old.

makeourfuture · 10/01/2018 07:00

the wife of a former president

Is that all there is to Hillary?

vwlphb · 10/01/2018 07:08

No, it’s not all there is. But the modern American affection for political family dynasties is disturbing. It suggests a really low level of analysis of the candidates’ genuine fitness for office and a preference for familiar names and faces. What are the odds, really, that the best-qualified people to lead the country are people who are related to people who’ve already held the position? People have bandied around Michelle Obama’s name as a future candidate and I just think, really? Is she truly the best person you can think of, or just the easiest?

GlitterUnicornsAndAllThatJazz · 10/01/2018 07:17

Trump, Oprah, Schwarzenegger- you've got a real problem when your people would rather vote for inexperienced popular culture figures because they're familiar, rather than choose someone with proven experience and knowledge of global affairs and doing right by the people.

HipNewName · 10/01/2018 07:20

Is that all there is to Hillary?

She was Secretary of State under Obama
Two terms in the Senate
Graduated from Yale Law school and did postgraduate work at Yale Child Study Center
Numerous legal accomplishments including director of a legal aid clinic, taught law classes, partner in a firm, and has did a great deal of child advocacy pro bono.

A lot of people just don't like her. Something about her is unlikeable, but she has a hell of a CV that doesn't have a thing to do with Bill.

HipNewName · 10/01/2018 07:24

But the modern American affection for political family dynasties is disturbing.

Many Americans, from both sides of the aisle, completely agree with you.

Whatsinanameanyway201 · 10/01/2018 07:28

Dwayne Johnson 2020 💪

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Ieatcake · 10/01/2018 07:37

Honestly, I find Brits saying which celebrity should be POTUS about as absurd as if Americans started suggesting Jeremy Clarkson for PM

Er I'm not a Brit (most of my family are in buffalo NY) and they already have a celeb as a president! Some small part of me as happy the potus didn't go to one of the same families again.

Has the rock even expressed an interest?

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Ieatcake · 10/01/2018 07:43

Honestly, I find Brits saying which celebrity should be POTUS about as absurd as if Americans started suggesting Jeremy Clarkson for PM

Er I'm not a Brit (most of my family are in buffalo NY) and they already have a celeb as a president! Some small part of me as happy the potus didn't go to one of the same families again.

Has the rock even expressed an interest?

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vwlphb · 10/01/2018 07:45

I actually do like Hillary. I just find it bizarre that she was a presidential candidate. I’d be fascinated to know why you think political family dynasties are a good thing. It’s deeply conservative at best, so I find it hard to see why Dems would go for it. You’re never going to get transformational change when you keep voting for more of the same.

vwlphb · 10/01/2018 07:47

Yes, The Rock has repeatedly expressed interest. He even made the WaPo’s list of top 15 potential Dem candidates. I think mostly on the basis that in the post-Trump and Schwarzenegger era, you can’t rule anything out just because it seems ludicrous at first.

SuperBeagle · 10/01/2018 07:54

Hillary was clearly fundamentally unpopular. She lost out in 2008, remained wholly unpopular throughout the 2016 campaign and was only elected as the Democratic candidate because there were no viable competitors, and lost the election to Donald Trump.

I tried to listen to her new book recently and couldn't. Her bitterness seeps out on every page and she seems incapable of accepting any responsibility for her defeat.

BertrandRussell · 10/01/2018 07:58

Really? She got quite a lot of votes........

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Ieatcake · 10/01/2018 08:04

She got alot of votes against trump.

I find her very Clare Underwood, even the tilted of her book sounds bitter.

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