Women Baring their beasts at a fire engine......

[Hannah4banana]

I was nightshift on New Years Eve into new year's day in the city centre tre. I couldn't believe it when a group of drunk ladies decided to flash at the guys in the fire engine I was in. I actually had to lock the cab door as they were trying to climb in when we were stopped at traffic lights.
Why the hell would anyone think that's acceptable in an emergency vehicle.
I was mortified for them!

So peppa and those of you defending this - how would you feel if a group of men (let's forget the flashing) started trying to get into your vehicle late at night whilst you were stopped at traffic lights? It's not okay.

ah i don't believe for a second your male colleagues were half as uncomfortable as they let you believe

Know them well do you?

It wad disrespectful and demeaning to the firefighters, both male and female, who were trying to do their job. Nothing to do with it being sexual or just being boobs. If they flashed the Police they could end up being arrested but firefighters are fair game? No, they are not.

Men without tops on in summer are not shoving thier chests in your faces though.
Dont see many groups of men trying to jump into a fire engine/ambulance/ women taxi drivers car shoving thier chests at them do you?

If women want to go topless at a beach/poolside fine. Its not harming anyone.

Its the presumption that total strangers want your boobs thrust in thier face thats really quite pathetic.

ah i don't believe for a second your male colleagues were half as uncomfortable as they let you believe. sorry

So it's okay to say that women don't feel as uncomfortable as they say when they are sexually harassed?

Thought not, so why are you saying it about men?

Penises and breasts are not the same thing. Wow, hold the front page.

We were all uncomfortable. I'm quite surprised at some of the comments, I was at my work. This is not acceptable whether I'm male or female! If this happened in an office would it still just be breasts and a bit of a laugh? I didn't feel threatened but I was mortified for them!
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While it isn't (quite) as bad as flashing your dick, it's still offensive.

ah i don't believe for a second your male colleagues were half as uncomfortable as they let you believe. sorry

there's always one.
I sincerely hope you do not have a son with this attitude.

Wow, hold the front page

It had to be said since people were equating them. Tell it to those posters who think they are!

It all comes back to gender stereotypes, doesn't it?

Women swooning at white knights. The assumption that men would be glad of the sight/the assumptuon of sex being offered as gratuity.
The language we level at the women doing it (anyone said tarts/slags, yet?).

I doubt they were uncomfortable too.

They won't have given a shiny shit.

I suspect they were more uncomfortable with the on-board camera and them having to be so PC so as not to be disciplined. When what they really wanted to say was look at her, the daft cow, she's being a right tit and a left one!

If this happened in an office would it still just be breasts and a bit of a laugh?

It didn't happen in an office. Is there any possiblilty of people commenting on what actually happened rather than any number of unrelated and unhelpful what ifs?

I compared flashing breasts and flashing a penis because the intention behind it is to invade someone else’s space in an offensive way, not because I’m actually stupid enough to think they’re the same thing. Thanks for explaining though, after 3 kids I still had no idea what the difference was

It didn't happen in an office. Is there any possiblilty of people commenting on what actually happened rather than any number of unrelated and unhelpful what ifs?

It was their work environment.

Men who flash often go on to rape. It's a feature on almost all the criminal records of male rapists I've seen (and I've seen a few).

So it might be sexual harassment, it might be unwanted, and I work with firefighters who would have been uncomfortable about this. But it is absolutely NOT in the same class.

I have a few firefighter mates and the whole women flashing their tits thing is not confined to drunks at kick out time. According to them it happens quite frequently during the daytime when responding to a shout. Odd really!

To those saying it isn't sexual harassment why not? Penises don't have to be involved. I personally consider being sexually aggressive towards someone who has shown no interest and is in fact a stranger just trying to get on with their life/job as sexual harassment. This is no different to cat calling, wolf whistling, shouting sexual phrases etc.

This on a basic level is women being overtly sexually aggressive towards someone who is just trying to work. They are also being physically aggressive trying to get in the vehicle.

It's absolutely disgusting behaviour. Why do people assume because boobs are involved and it's aimed at men that they "must love it" that attitude is as disgusting as the behaviour itself. I know plenty of men who would be uncomfortable in this situation.

I compared flashing breasts and flashing a penis because the intention behind it is to invade someone else’s space in an offensive way

Well yes to a certain extent. A man flashing his penis to a woman though is a much more threatening act though.

It was their work environment

It wasn't the flashees work environment. Anywhere can be a firefighters work environment, anywhere at all, so that argument doesn't hold.

So if a man goes into a bank and flashes at the cashier is that OK, it isn't his work place.

Well yes to a certain extent. A man flashing his penis to a woman though is a much more threatening act though. Is it really though? In a one to one situation it is. In a face to penis situation it is but if a group of women were travelling in a mini bus and a passing man flashed would that really be anymore threatening?

A man flashing his penis to a woman though is a much more threatening act though

Nobody is denying that, but this isn’t about that is it? Why should anyone have someone else’s private areas shoved in their face?

I think for some people after a drink all class goes out the window! I think some people just use alcohol as an excuse for this kind of behaviour like it excuses it.

Nobody drunk or not should be flashing at people

It wad disrespectful and demeaning to the firefighters, both male and female, who were trying to do their job. Nothing to do with it being sexual or just being boobs. If they flashed the Police they could end up being arrested but firefighters are fair game? No, they are not.

THIS ^

And I wonder - if any of the firefighters - male or female had responded in any way (say) physically pushing the women away from the vehicle (especially if they touched a breast in doing so) or shouted something like "FFS - get your saggy udders out of my windscreen!" - would that still have been okay?

Stuff all of this "they're only breasts" rubbish. There are appropriate times and places to expose various parts of our bodies, and this obviously not one of them.

Peppa - if your DH was perhaps a plumber, and some woman in a house where he was working flashed her breasts, or threw her knickers at him, would you be taking the same attitude?

So if a man goes into a bank and flashes at the cashier is that OK, it isn't his work place

is that a joke? Or can you actually not tell the difference between a defined workplace such as a bank or an office and being on the street on a night out and people claiming that as a fire fighters "work environment"?

You're not that stupid, I'm sure.