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Women Baring their beasts at a fire engine......

295 replies

Hannah4banana · 03/01/2018 15:51

I was nightshift on New Years Eve into new year's day in the city centre tre. I couldn't believe it when a group of drunk ladies decided to flash at the guys in the fire engine I was in. I actually had to lock the cab door as they were trying to climb in when we were stopped at traffic lights.
Why the hell would anyone think that's acceptable in an emergency vehicle.
I was mortified for them!

OP posts:
Willow2017 · 03/01/2018 17:31

peppa now who is not kerping up?

Bf is natural and really not in the same ball park as aggressively shoving them in someone else's face. Dont be daft you are really clutching at straws to continue your argument.

Notreallyarsed · 03/01/2018 17:34

AS long as you realise then that all breastfeeding women could also be charged with indecent exposure?

Last time I looked the right to get hammered and flash your breasts in public wasn’t protected by law, so your argument is bullshit.

peppapigwouldmakelovelyrashers · 03/01/2018 17:36

Oh dear, this is really quite painful. If women could be charged with indecent exposure for showing their breasts while drunk ,they could also be charged with it for showing them while breastfeeding.
It would be the showing them that would be the indecent exposure part, not the being drunk or being on a night out.

Can't believe that actually has to be explained. Are you all still daytime drinking? Christmas is over you know.

peppapigwouldmakelovelyrashers · 03/01/2018 17:37

Bf is natural and really not in the same ball park as aggressively shoving them in someone else's face

They were inside a vehicle. No breasts were in anyones face.

God its like a convention of the terminally dim.

Fekko · 03/01/2018 17:37

Can you actually be arrested for mooning? I have said that I'd moon Trump if he ever gets over to London...

OnionKnight · 03/01/2018 17:38

God its like a convention of the terminally dim.

With one attendee, you.

peppapigwouldmakelovelyrashers · 03/01/2018 17:39

Nope, I'm the only one making any sense.

Do you not understand it is what you show, not why you are showing it that matters legally? That is why men pissing in public can be charged with indecent exposure same as a determined flasher.

Switch on brains before typing, people.

Jaygee61 · 03/01/2018 17:40

But if they are hardly likely to be breastfeeding a baby while on a drunken night out, are they? The two things are really not likely to conincide.

grannytomine · 03/01/2018 17:41

I don't think they would be arrested for indecent exposure, drunk and disorderly is appropriate.

Willow2017 · 03/01/2018 17:43

They were inside a vehicle. No breasts were in anyones face.

God its like a convention of the terminally dim.

RTFT they attempted to get into the cab half naked What did you think they were going to do? Ask for autographs?

Willow2017 · 03/01/2018 17:45

Peppa
You still havent explained how its ok to harass people at thier workplace as long as you dont work there too.

Bluntness100 · 03/01/2018 17:48

I think what I find most distasteful is not just the whole getting your tits out for the lads ethos about it. I can't believe there are still women who think this is a bit of a laugh but what's worse is them thinking firefighters are all straight neandrathal men who would appreciate it. Equal opportunities? Diversity? These idiots don't know the meaning of the words.

As some of us fight for women to be taken seriously and equally, who teach our daughters self respect and dignity, you get these idiots drunkenly flashing their tits on public thoroughfares at passing emergency vehicles on their way to do a serious and potentially dangerous job.

That's what people like the op get. Trying to do her job. A female fire fighter, And some idiots flashing their tits at her.

I know which one of them commands more respect in my eyes.

grasspigeons · 03/01/2018 17:49

peppa - that isn't really how indecent exposure is defined in the uk.

formerbabe · 03/01/2018 17:50

Do you not understand it is what you show, not why you are showing it that matters legally?

So is it the case that showing your breasts in public in itself is not an arrestable offence? If so, could you quote soberly walk down the street as a woman with no top/bra on and nothing would be done about it? Genuine question btw!

Notreallyarsed · 03/01/2018 17:52

BREASTFEEDING IN PUBLIC IS PROTECTED BY LAW

And you call the rest of us dim? Oh the absolute fucking irony

derxa · 03/01/2018 17:52

p eppa You don't really believe what you're saying, do you?

MrMeSeeks · 03/01/2018 17:53

*Today 16:09 peppapigwouldmakelovelyrashers

Penises and breasts are not the same thing. Can you not make an actual point about breasts without going on and on about completely irrelevant penises? Shows the weakness of the original point, doesn't it?*
So its ok not ok to sexually harass a woman, but men are fair game?
They shouldn't be bothered as 'they're only breasts'
Great attitude.

These silly women would soon stop with the flashing of their tits if they were prosecuted for indecent exposure
You can't see the difference between flashing and breastfeeding?
Scary.

MockneyReject · 03/01/2018 17:54

*As long as you realise then that all breastfeeding women could also be charged with indecent exposure?

Last time I looked the right to get hammered and flash your breasts in public wasn’t protected by law, so your argument is bullshit*

Sex discrimination laws are what protect bfing.
Men with their tops off in public is not indecent exposure.
Women with their tops off in public is not indecent exposure.
Men and/or women with their genitals out in public is indecent exposure.
So, if these women are guilty of indecent exposure, then so are topless men and breastfeeding women.
Otherwise its sex discrimination.

grasspigeons · 03/01/2018 17:56

fomerbabe

i think you might stray into public outrage - rather than indecent exposure as breasts aren't genitals and just walking around isn't sexual

if you lived in a particularly liberal village and no one was outranged you'd probably be fine.

but if a reasonable person would be shocked and appalled by your choice you might get a fine.

MrMeSeeks · 03/01/2018 17:56

Some reason it didn't copy the whole of Peppa amazing comment.

UrgentScurryfunge · 03/01/2018 17:56

Intent matters. I've seen male runners taking a pee at the roadside of a country road. The sight of their penis as I'm driving by is not threatening. If however he sees me coming by on foot and then gets his penis out, there is a potential threat in the behaviour as it could be preceding a sexual intent. A breast in itself can not cause harm. If it is exposed in the course feeding of an infant, it is doing good. About the only way you could be assaulted by a breast is if an engorged, lactating women aimed to squirt milk in your eye, but I'm now bordering into the realms of the ridiculous and that isn't what happened here.

I agree that a group of women flashing their breasts is more akin to mooning. It is crude behaviour, and disruptive to the firefighters' duties but unlikely to precede some kind of assault. Firefighters should be free to work unencumbered by silly drunks.

If we compared a group of predominantly male firefighters and a group of predominantly nurses being harassed by a group of the opposite sex who are reacting to uniform clichés, both are wrong, but I would think it was more likely that the nurses would feel at risk rather than just inconvenienced or embarrassed.

MockneyReject · 03/01/2018 17:57

Bluntness 100

Youve said, in that one post, what I've been trying to get across since the first page!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/01/2018 17:58

They were trying to get into the vehicle - and it is reasonable to assume that was in order to shove their breasts in the firefighters’ faces, @peppapigwouldmakelovelyrashers.

Whilst I accept that this was not as threatening as a man flashing a woman or women, I would say that it is still harassment. Surely there is a spectrum of harassing behaviours and just because something isn’t the worst harassment, doesn’t mean it isn’t harassment at all.

And why are there some people on this thread who are so arrogant as to assume that THEY know the male firefighters better than the OP - who is their actual colleague and who was present when this happened, and is presumably therefore in a far better position to judge their reactions!!

Mrsmadevans · 03/01/2018 17:58

Oh thank you OP for putting this out here for us to read I have just laughed like a drain , thank you so much

Mrsmadevans · 03/01/2018 18:00

Perhaps they wanted to give the firemen some 'Bitty'

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