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To hate the dog

557 replies

gta · 02/01/2018 11:38

We have a 10 week old puppy . I am 8 weeks pregnant with the most horrendous morning day and night sickness and my sense of smell through the roof.
The dog is NOT house trained and seems to be going backwards rather than improving. He is shitting and pissing EVERYWHERE. Pooing in his own bed. Eating his own poo. Vomiting his poo up. Weeing in his own bed. His bed is washed multiple times a day, new beds have been bought.
I can't cope . I am crying everyday with it all it's disgusting. I dread waking up in the morning feeling sick, being sick and then cleaning up all the piss and shit he's left all over the kitchen floor . I can't stand him being near me . I'm at a complete loss st what to do but I'm absolutely miserable and hate living in my house with him. Please help Sad

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DeadButDelicious · 02/01/2018 13:56

I had a rescue pug, frenchies are not far away from them temperament wise, they are extremely sociable dogs, their whole purpose, what they have been bred for, is to be near you. They are also stubborn and difficult to housebreak, not impossible, but difficult. I would very much recommend a dog trainer and puppy classes. Join a local Frenchie group, they will have a wealth of experience. Do you have a crate?

But most importantly do you have insurance? Good insurance? These dogs are very popular at the moment and they are not being bred by responsible people (and if your breeder let the dog go at 7 weeks he is not responsible), this is leading to serious health issues within the breed.

If you don't want to carry on with the dog (and none of us can make you) please, please, give him up to a breed specific rescue. Don't rehome him yourself.

Frequency · 02/01/2018 13:56

It's not too early to socialise. The socialisation period is between 0 - 16 weeks. If OP waited until 14 weeks, she'd be waiting too long. The puppy should be taken outside (carried) as often as possible and should be being introduced to vaccinated, friendly dogs and/or taken to puppy meet at the vets.

jacks11 · 02/01/2018 13:56

goodbyeeee

Being ill does not absolve you of responsibility for the welfare of your pet. It may explain why she cannot keep the puppy. And the situation is partially of her making- her DH may have bought the dog (that she had been going on about wanting for ages) but OP agreed to keep the dog and was happy to do so. Therefore, she accepted shared responsibility for the puppy regardless of who bought the puppy. And that was clearly an error.

OP needs to do the right thing for the puppy, whose welfare is her responsibility, whether she is unwell our not. It sounds like doing the right thing by the dog will be the best thing for OP too.

Ruffian · 02/01/2018 13:56

Feel for you OP Flowers and I hope they don't move this to the 'doghouse' section as you will just be flamed all over again.

Your dp bought the dog as a 'surprise' for you, what a bloody irresponsible thing to do - did you ever say you wanted a dog? Even if the dog was house-trained would you actually want it or will it be too much with a new baby as well?

It's not up to your DH to lay down the law about this unless he is going to take sole charge of cleaning up after the dog and getting it trained which he clearly isn't.

Don't take it back to the breeder, contact a rescue centre, they will be much more concientous about rehoming to ensure the next owners are responsible and loving.

BarbarianMum · 02/01/2018 13:58

Why on earth do people get dogs when they clearly haven't a clue about dogs?

I honestly don't think most actually want dogs. I think they want cute anamatronic puppy toys to play with when they fancy it and shut away when they don't. And when the toys shit, or chew, or bark or need stuff that's not convenient (like daily exercise, or veterinary care), or grow up or get boring they dispose of them.

Colouringaddict · 02/01/2018 13:58

Any bulldog breed will be quick to learn habits, both good and bad. He is either eating his own poo out of nerves or there is something missing from his diet, you could add pineapple to his food, which will make his poo taste awful even to this little poop eating monster. You need to develop a routine with him just like you would a baby. Take him out after playing, eating, sleeping and as soon as you come in. General rule of thumb is they can last an hour for every month of their life, so you could/ should be able to leave him for 2 hours now. It sounds like he doesn’t know where he is supposed to go to the toilet, but knows it’s wrong, so eats it. He sounds really scared himself.
When you take him out, stay with him until he goes, then say something like “Good boy, go wee wee or poo”. Make a massive fuss when he gets it right and ignore when he doesn’t. We’ve had our girl for 3 months and she now pees on command.
Crate train, it’s best for him and you. To begin with, make it dark and cosy and feed him in there, give him treats in there and make it a lovely place. Make sure it’s just big enough for him to get in, turn around and lie down, he is less likely to soil that way. Bull breeds are notoriously difficult to train.
Do not let him have free run of the house, keep him with you at all times, tie a lead to your waist, as soon as he starts to sniff or circle, get him outside and reward.
Frenchies are highly excitable, and can be destructive too, so puppy proof your house.
Anything you teach him now will be really really hard to break so do some research and if you really can’t manage it, then you are going to have to rehome him. I’m more concerned at the fact your DP is not listening to you at all, if you dont work as a team it’s not just the dog that will be taking advantage of you

WeAllHaveWings · 02/01/2018 13:58

OP is feeling despetately unwell and is struggling to cope with a situation that is not of her making.

Did you miss the part where with no knowledge of dog ownership she accepted an underage puppy from a back yard breeder as a surprise gift from her just as inexperienced dp just before Christmas and then the pair of them have subsequently neglected to find out and perform even the most basic of puppy care by not leaving alone, nighttime care, toilet training or feeding regularly?

QueenThisTime · 02/01/2018 14:00

OP I think you are getting some unfair responses. I fully understand how at 8 weeks pg you feel as you do - I felt so awful with morning sickness and I can't imagine having to deal with an incontinent puppy.

Yes people will tell you you should have thought it through and you're mean to not see your commitment through, but this dog isn't settled, and you are in no position to cope with its needs. Maybe I'll get flamed but I do think you are more important, and also that the puppy will be happier elsewhere.

Tell, don't ask, DP that you are not coping and need to rehome it as it is the kindest thing, you made a mistake and you need to do something. It will be such a relief when you get it sorted - and probably also for the puppy.

goodbyeeee · 02/01/2018 14:01

It's nothing to do with her not having the will. She has a debilitating condition. Which means she physically cannot get up x number of times to take the puppy out. When I had hyperemisis I could barely lift my head up without violently vomiting. If her DP can't or won't step up the kindest most responsible thing is to rehome the puppy. Of course it's not the puppy fault but the OP didnt ask for the pyppy and I doubt she asked for hyperemisis either.

BiteyShark · 02/01/2018 14:02

OP you need to decide what you want from this thread.

Do you want help in training him? If so accept it's going to be hard work and start a different thread in the doghouse and ask for toileting help.

Do you want to rehome him? Then give the reasons your DP says you can't so we can help you counter them.

TheLuminaries · 02/01/2018 14:02

A fashionable and irresponsibly bred breed, purchased on a whim - could you be more irresponsible? It is all about how hard it is for poor little crying you - what about the poor puppy who had zero choice in ending up with you pair of useless clowns? Please rehome the poor creature, it deserves so much better. A responsible breeder would take back a puppy - but I highly doubt you used a responsible breeder.

Trinity66 · 02/01/2018 14:04

goodbyeeee

I agree but the dog is also suffering now and that needs to be resolved. Sounds like the OP wants to do that but her DP is trying to stop that, that's a problem

QueenThisTime · 02/01/2018 14:06

Yes some people don't know all the details about how best to obtain and train a puppy. That doesn't make them evil puppy-torturers. OP has ended up out of her depth and needs help, and the dog needs a better outcome – all of which can be sorted out fairly straightforwardly. OP does not need bullying and sneering at Angry

CatkinToadflax · 02/01/2018 14:08

OP, do bear in mind that if you are going to keep the puppy then French Bulldogs are extremely prone to extensive health problems. My grandmother had a Frenchie who went to live with my parents when Granny died. He had every health problem under the sun and ended his life with one eye, one ear, severe breathing issues and a spine that had had extensive surgery. I daresay he was exceptionally unlucky, but it seems that most French Bulldogs are susceptible to a mixture of breathing, spine and eye/ear conditions. If your breeder is dodgy then this is all the more likely. Have you got comprehensive pet insurance and would you be prepared to care for him through a lot of ill-health if it came to that?

Given your current situation and the fact that he's currently so young, surely now is the time to re-home him. Poor little pup.

goodbyeeee · 02/01/2018 14:09

Trinity yes I agree which is why I think she has to insist for both her sake and the puppy's.

FrogsSpawnofSanta · 02/01/2018 14:09

*No reputable breeder would let a pup leave at 7 weeks.

Give it to a breed rescue and let them find it the correct type of home before it ends up ruined.*

This

Trinity66 · 02/01/2018 14:10

goodbyeeee

Absolutely.

Valerrie · 02/01/2018 14:11

This thread has made me feel so fucking sick.

A too young puppy from a backyard breeder, a French Bulldog at that. OP, your puppy should be on at least 3 meals a day, if not 4. You cutting him back to 2 because he poos is really not fair. His poor, empty tummy :(

Your DP is a vile arsehole and the poor, poor puppy needs to be rehomed immediately. Not to the piece of shit breeder. Call breed rescue.

Whereabouts are you? I'm involved in dog rescue, I could arrange something.

Heartbreaking.

IrkThePurist · 02/01/2018 14:11

Dogs often learn to eat their own poo when they pick up that it distresses their owner, or makes them angry.

Rehome the pup. Phone the breeder first, if they wont take it back phone the breed rescue. Please do it today.

LaContessaDiPlump · 02/01/2018 14:12

A dog was foisted on op by an inconsiderate partner and she tries to make the situation work out for everyone. Yeah, I agree, she's a complete twat. Let's all rip her a new one Angry

op, I hope you can rehome him asap. This is completely unfair on you. I also hope the few helpful voices outweigh the cunty remarks on here.

Valerrie · 02/01/2018 14:13

Also, OP you've had a dog before. What happened to that one?

Kitsharrington · 02/01/2018 14:14

Haven’t RTFT but I hope you have been given the blasting you deserve OP. Puppies don’t train themselves. Please find a new home for this young guy with someone who actually gives a shit and can give him the life he deserves. You know you will end up giving him away once the baby comes anyway: try to be decent and do it now while he is still very young.

nannybeach · 02/01/2018 14:15

Never too early to socialise a puppy, you have a small window, before 16 weeks. My vet (of 20 plus years) said whatever else I do and dont do, I must get the dog used to people, animals, vehicles,we had a list of 100, hats,beards,uniforms, etc etc, dogs,cats,horshes, I used to carry my last, (she is now 2) around in a back pack on my front, take her out with my other dog. if you have a friend with a dog who has been vaccinated, get it used to other dogs. Your vet can advise of puppy socliasation classes. I always tell people you have a baby here, needs "potty" training. I used to throw up at everything, back in the day, no-one was bothered, that I was sick for momths and months.For some strange reason, the "smell" of (clean ) loo paper set me off. I also have a toy (phalene) he had to be 11 weeks before leaving his mother, normally, the smaller the dog, longer they need their Mum.Here where I live the French bull dog, and pug, have "been there,done that" and gone out of fashion,.

Ivymaud · 02/01/2018 14:15

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Trinity66 · 02/01/2018 14:16

A French Bulldog pup should be really easy to rehome as well, you need to put your foot down with your DP for yours and the pups sake or just do it without telling him (I wouldn't normally suggest making a decision like that without talking to you DP but he's being out of order expecting you, his pregnant, sick partner look after an animal you didn't ask for or want)