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Why do some people never reciprocate hospitality?

726 replies

FrancinePefco · 02/01/2018 07:55

For more than 10 years now, we host drinks for neighbours and local friends during the Christmas holidays. We also regularly have a summer drinks/bbq. Quite a few of our guests have therefore enjoyed our hospitality (including food and lots of drink) at least once or twice a year for a decade or so but they have have never once invited us to anything - not even for a "Come in. Would you like a cuppa?" when we have had to e.g. drop children off at their houses.

I don't think it can be BO or bad breath because they obviously don't mind being around us (as long as it's at our house). In fact, this year we decided not to Christmas drinks and apparently several people were asking around if they had missed an invite.

I wouldn't feel comfortable just asking "Hey, how come you never invite us round to yours?". So I thought I would check with strangers on the Internet firstSad

OP posts:
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 04/01/2018 19:26

I’m quite happy without the social aspect of people at mine! A takeaway wouldn’t work as I never know how my stomach will react (sorry, TMI!) so I’ll only have one with DH.

Does it make me socially acceptable if I invite people for a bbq in the summer? I forgot that we invited them last summer and it seemed to work well.

AstridWhite · 04/01/2018 19:28

Of course it does Pink!

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 04/01/2018 19:30

I’d forgotten that bit! We only managed one for various reasons but hopefully we might have some good weather this year!

Pluckedpencil · 04/01/2018 19:32

I think people protesteth too much. Almost everyone prefers to go to a party at someone else's house. We have a tiny little apartment but do throw little parties, gatherings, even if it is cramped. And yes, our house is messy and I have to spend a day cleaning and tidying before. I have little kids and the shopping and prepping is a stress and even the event I don't particular enjoy, but we do it because we love going to other people's and we owe it to them to reciprocate. bringing a nice gift is not the same as hosting, I promise!!

Roussette · 04/01/2018 19:34

I love going to parties at others' houses! I like to think I'm a good guest because I just know how much work goes into it all

Pink your BBQ sounds great!

Taffeta · 04/01/2018 19:42

frog

You would hate me OP. Me (and DH,) are regularly invited by neighbours and colleagues and acquaintances to their house for a meal or a party or whatever, and we never reciprocate

So you regularly are hounded to attend by neighbours, colleagues and acquaintances?

I somehow doubt that.

I suspect you are asked regularly , once, and attend.

Dianag111 · 04/01/2018 19:53

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AstridWhite · 04/01/2018 19:53

You would hate me OP. Me (and DH,) are regularly invited by neighbours and colleagues and acquaintances to their house for a meal or a party or whatever, and we never reciprocate.

It's interesting frog that you never mentioned actual friends.

ChocolateWombat · 04/01/2018 19:57

Well put Plucked. I think you are right and that in the end, it boils down to being willing to put yourself out a bit for your friends......and yes, being a good guest with generous gifts etc doesn't compare with hosting.

It's perfectly possible in a small, untidy flat, even with little money, to invite someone or two people for coffee and a cake.

Isn't this partly about recognising that those who have often hosted you, might also enjoy an invite themselves sometime too. You don't need to become the party thrower of the year to be willing to sometimes go out of your comfort zone just a little bit, because you acknowledge the rightness of giving those who have frequently hosted you the chance to be the guest for once.

And yes, I agree that reciprocity can take a variety of forms - you might invite those people instead out for a meal or a drink in the pub or a coffee, or to the park for a picnic.......but to never offer them any kind of invitation of any type, having received their hospitality on numerous occasions just strikes me as very socially unaware and to be honest, quite selfish, u less it's to do with health issues.

Not all people are natural hosts and party givers. Like lots of things, we sometimes need to push ourselves a bit with things we find hard. We can decide that because our flat is small or cluttered, or we are not confident cooks or confident hosts that somehow we are justified in never inviting people to anything at all. I agree that these things can exclude you justifiably from throwing a big party - but these things don't exclude you from inviting those who have often invited you for a coffee or if you really cannot push yourself to allow anyone into your home, for a drink in a park or pub or park.

Hearing from all the hosts on here, it's so obvious that lots would just really appreciate an invitation to something - it really doesn't matter what. They don't host to receive return invites and most aren't keeping a tally of invites they receive to those given, but when they invite someone time after time and never receive so much as an invitation for a coffee, no wonder they feel the relationship is really skewed.....and at that point I think that people are actually taking the piss and need to stop making excuses and get on and recognise that relationships are a mutual thing, where both parties have to make an effort. Otherwise, they really are starting to look like sponges. Perhaps they are, with no real interest in the hosts at all, just in seeing the other people there and enjoying the hospitality given. It certainly starts to look like this is over a long period of time, they always receive hospitality but never make any kind of offer or invitation in return.

wakemeupbefore · 04/01/2018 20:00

One suspects frog might have delusions of grandeur, as unless the hord of hosts he/she is alluding to, are so very desperate, that they are ready to bus in paid 'guests', it is highly unlikely anyone in their right mind would ever ask someone twice to their party . (And breathe...)
But clearly we move in very different circles and hers as much, much more superior.
Grin

FrancinePefko · 04/01/2018 20:12

Astrid, Wakemeup, Rousette...Well, what do you do when you've planned a BBQ and it piddles it down?

FrancinePefko · 04/01/2018 20:17

Best not to engage with people like that!

Roussette · 04/01/2018 20:26

Grin Francine That is soooo annoying. I've barbecued under an umbrella and I've stuck it all in the oven but it is just not the same, that's for sure!

FrancinePefko · 04/01/2018 20:32

I do appreciate the comments from several PPs about hosting becoming too stressful for some. My DH's best friend from work invited us over to theirs as a reciprocal gesture after having been to ours lots. They have a lovely, lovely huge house (like something out of a magazine) but both of them got so completely freaked out by trying to cook an overly flashy meal that they ended up having a blazing row before we'd eaten.

We would have been happy with fish'n'chips out of the paper...as long as people were actually enjoying the experience.

Anyway, since then - we socialise with them in pubs / restaurant rather than at their home. Fair enough.

Interestingly, we always split the bill 50/50. It would feel very strange if they picked up the entire bill not that they have ever offered to do this

FrancinePefko · 04/01/2018 20:39

Rousette Grin
I meant to ask you about your collection of plates. That really sounds nice - an eclectic mix of crockery rather than everything all matching.

Pluckedpencil · 04/01/2018 20:43

I thought I'd prove that we really do have loads of people round in our teeny tiny old fashioned apartment (that I love very much!). You don't need a mansion and a fortune to host. Where there's a will there's a way. But you need to get over yourself and not worry about people judging you by your home decor.

Why do some people never reciprocate hospitality?
FrancinePefko · 04/01/2018 20:48

That looks so warm and welcoming, Pluckedpencil

Roussette · 04/01/2018 20:49

Francine I wish it were an eclectic mix! It's just more like I see reduced plates and can't resist buying them because of the size or the shape! I get bored with same old same old. I have plates I love, I have plates I hate, I have plain, I have slightly patterned, I have oval, I have square. And if I have lots here I use paper plates so not sure why I don't get rid of them.... however...I am fobbing them off giving them to DCs but they can't be bothered to take them at the moment. I wish I could break them like I do glasses!

Roussette · 04/01/2018 20:50

Plucked that looks wonderful ! It really does

FrancinePefko · 04/01/2018 20:59

Have a Greek themed party and get smashing

Taffeta · 04/01/2018 21:11

I want to go to Plucked’s place - looks fab

Roussette · 04/01/2018 21:31

OMG Francine that is inspired!

wakemeupbefore · 04/01/2018 21:50

I am so glad I found this thread. Even on the faceless internetty, it's hearwarming to see there are others who do love entertaining and face the same conundrums.
A MN Dinner Club, what a wonder Grin

Stella60 · 04/01/2018 22:09

I host parties because I love it on all levels, but if I didn't I wouldn't feel bad about it, although I would make sure that I contributed well if I went to others. I'm aware that some of my guests do not host, I could speculate on the many possible reasons, but I don't have a problem with it. Some do, some don't and if you don't enjoy it or feel resentful then don't do it anymore

FrancinePefko · 04/01/2018 22:31

For those too busy to RTFT, just to clarify, I don't think any of the hosters have said they feel "resentful" of those who won't reciprocate. Indeed, many /most of us enjoy creating a welcoming and warm atmosphere in our homes without any expectation of every single event being reciprocated directly and immediately with a like for like invitation to their own homes for a similar event.

I hope that is clear now for about the 32nd time

HOWEVER - this thread was really just curious about a pattern of behaviour in a tiny minority of regular acceptors of our hospitality (sometimes for 10-20 years) who choose never to do anything similar themselves

None of the regular hosters have said they are going to stop hosting for ever more. Several of them have been re thinking who they invite - and what kind of people they want in their homes and lives.

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