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To say bras are not for boys

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 01/01/2018 13:50

Another trans bully nightmare. Targetting the yellowberry bra brand now

lilymaynard.wordpress.com/2017/12/31/bra-gate-yellowberry-products-now-for-everyone/

When will this BS end?

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bestthings · 02/01/2018 12:49

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Ereshkigal · 02/01/2018 12:53

I think we need to be a lot more clear that men don't do womanning better than women, because they're not actually women.

Aeroflotgirl · 02/01/2018 13:09

Sorry Mummy I dident mean to offend you. I was trying to make a point which went a bit wrong. Personally I have big norks, I don't like them at all, and having to wear a cumbersome boulder holder. I understand that bras don't always serve a practicle purpose, I am just speaking from my experience.

PositivelyPERF · 02/01/2018 13:16

You're completly missing the point, Cheap. Bras are made specifically for women, big, small or as flat as two fried eggs. I'm in the two flat eggs camp, but they're STILL. breasts. I'm not offended by them being designed for a 'specific purpose' and find it ludicrous that your more offended by that suggestion than you are by the demands of a group of men. Men can wear whatever the fuck they like, but they don't get to demand that we go along with their fantasies.

PositivelyPERF · 02/01/2018 13:17

You're not your*

Aeroflotgirl · 02/01/2018 13:32

As for reducing gender, to body functions, how ludricous if I was referred as a menstruater by somebody, instead of a woman, they wod be getting a piece of my mind.

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 02/01/2018 13:33

My flat chest isn't "breasts" Perf. I'm literally flat. Like a boy.

Only I'm not a boy. Some women don't develop breast tissue. Does that mean I can't or should not wear a bra because they're for breasts?

If it's ok for flat chested women to wear them...then why can't flat men wear them?

I don't have a penis but I can wear trousers no? There was a time when we said "Trousers are for MEN!" wasn't there?

UpABitLate · 02/01/2018 13:38

Men can wear them and quite a few do and have done for yonks. Men have long enjoyed wearing women's underwear.

I hate the idea that a very flat chested woman literally has no breasts - most flat chested women can beastfeed, which is what breasts are there for. The idea that it's all about SIZE is so incredibly male.

Gileswithachainsaw · 02/01/2018 13:39

Surely adult men would have different measurements due to differently developed body shapes?

So why doesn't someone design their own web site and product design.

UpABitLate · 02/01/2018 13:41

Telling other women that they've got no tits is something men have done to women forever, and sneered at them.

To see women also saying that flat chested women literally have no breasts is just vile.

Breasts are for feeding babies, women have them. Just because YOU judge size along with a host of nasty men, does not mean that it is literally true that women YOU deem to have breasts that are "too small" (for what exactly?) literally have no breasts.

The tone of some posters on this thread is grossly misognynistic. Say what you want about yourself but you don't get to categorise others especially using the same commentary as they will have heard from all sorts of nasty people for years.

UpABitLate · 02/01/2018 13:42

Giles yes men have much broader backs in general, due to being bigger taller and having a different shape.

But we probably aren't allowed to mention that, as it's transphobic to mention things like this.

UpABitLate · 02/01/2018 13:43

Sorry just missed the part of the post where it is claimed (in a roundabout way) that trousers are designed specifically to fit PENISES lololololo,ol ok you're on the wind up aren't you Grin

Aeroflotgirl · 02/01/2018 13:44

Everybody can wear what the hell they like, I can go into the men's underwear section and purchase a pair of Y fronts, despite me not having a penis. But what I will not do, is demand that men's underwear companies, are too masculine and boy orientated, and need to be gender neutral. And send crappy twitter's to such companies, demanding they change for me, or a small subgroup of women who like to wear y fronts so it's more feminine.

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 02/01/2018 13:44

Late I don't consider myself to have "breasts" though. I've got a chest! You could look at a breast and know it as a breast...mine is just nipple.

I'm fine with it...I don't say breasts though.

joystir59 · 02/01/2018 13:48

Let them wear bras if they like. My nephew wanted to try on bras andtightsto see what they felt like. He decided bras were ridiculously uncomfortable but wanted to keep the tights on and sleep in them. His nana was also staying with usat the time and they were sharing a double bed. I told him he'd better take them off before he gave his (old fashioned) nana a conniption.

joystir59 · 02/01/2018 13:51

Btw he grew up within a matriarchal family and spent a lot of time with me and my do (lesbians). He grew up into a soft, gentle heterosexual and masculine man. Women love his company because he is very sorted and relaxed around them.

UpABitLate · 02/01/2018 13:51

Cheap stop being so nasty.

You can say what you like about yourself but this "I call a spade a spade and flat chested women don't have any breasts just like boys it's a fact" makes you sound like someone's horrible uncle.

UpABitLate · 02/01/2018 13:52

Given that you are talking directly TO flat chested women.

Just downright nasty.

I often wonder how some women end up sounding like the nastiest type of sexist man. It's weird and somehow more shocking than when men do it.

Gileswithachainsaw · 02/01/2018 13:53

But we probably aren't allowed to mention that, as it's transphobic to mention things like this

Blah blah blah advanced biology.....

Anyway no one should have to alter terms on a website like that. All that will do is mean that they potentially don't come up depending on the Google search terms used which means the target group may never even find them. Which is of course not right.

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 02/01/2018 13:54

Late YOU stop being so nasty! It's my body and I can think of it as I choose!

How DARE you compare me to an old sexist man! I came to terms with MY body in the way that helped ME!

If you don't like it tough!

Slarti · 02/01/2018 14:00

If you have man boobs I suggest you go do something about them... men typically don't have much breast tissue so if you do something might be wrong. Overweight? Cancer? You should probably see your GP. Not get a brassiere.

It's not for you to tell anyone else what to do with their body though is it? I don't agree with the campaign linked to in the OP but equally I don't agree with telling other people, expecially in a shaming way, what clothes they can wear. If someone wants to wear an item of clothing commonly associated with the opposite sex for whatever reason - including being overweight - they should be free to do so.

PositivelyPERF · 02/01/2018 14:01

I'm sorry that your internal voice has been so badly influenced by men's opinion of what breasts should look like. I've spent all my life having my breast size appearing to be an acceptable topic of discussion. I've had the jokes and so called well meaning women suggest that I get 'fillets' and padded bras. None of this opinion or advice was ever asked for. Do you think the women that suggested those options were thinking I would look more attractive to other women or do you think I might be 'sexier' for men to look at? I still have BREASTS and I've had the tumour to prove it. You're actually the one who is being incredibly insulting.

Huskylover1 · 02/01/2018 14:02

It's an item of clothing, that's all. No group owns any item of clothing

Of course they do, you fool.

Men own jockstraps. Women own bras. And I think it's fucking obvious why. If you need it spelling out.....men have dicks & women have boobs.

Twerp!

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 02/01/2018 14:05

"Men own jockstraps. Women own bras. And I think it's fucking obvious why."

Snort.

Sometimes the debates on here are just stupid. Men can wear bras if they want. Crack on. But they are female clothing

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CheapSausagesAndSpam · 02/01/2018 14:06

Perf we weren't talking about your breasts but about my chest. Don't fucking patronise me either. I don't need your pity.

Don't tell me what I HAVE to call my body. I no more have to call my chest "breasts" than you have to say you don't have any

MY BODY MY CHOICE.