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To call out my vegan friend?

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rubbishtalker · 28/12/2017 22:29

I haven't known her very long, a few years. She is a work colleague. She is 'vegan' on social media, lots of photos and hash tagging and "cruelty free" style comments.

But a few months ago when we went out for a team lunch she ate pork. I've seen her eat cheese, chocolate etc before.

AIBU to comment something along the lines of ' I love how you see vegan meals as a healthy aspect to your current diet'?? I am starting to find it irritating.

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TatianaLarina · 28/12/2017 23:16

Is that not the same as calling someone out? Taking the piss out of the selective veganism kind of sounds the same.

Depends how you define it - generally on here people seem to mean a kind of po-faced confrontation. As per the OP’s suggested comment.

Weezol · 28/12/2017 23:16

Tinsel Beat me to it! Wait until she's got a fork full of meat, trill 'selfie babes!' or whatever it is people say, upload, job done.

LockedOutOfMN · 28/12/2017 23:20

Rainbowmother
I would ask her next time she orders steak / cracks open a peperami what made her decide to stop being a vegan.

Yes, I'd do this. If you post on social media, you'll look like a bitch and she'll probably block you or even report you.

Northernlass99 · 28/12/2017 23:20

In addition, one woman I work with claims to be a vegan, but when costa had no soy milk the other week, she said 'meh, the normal milk will do then....' I thought 'You are not really a vegan then are you luv?!'

I see that could be annoying, but me personally I wouldn't have a problem with this. She is trying her hardest. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. It is hard and sometimes you need some flexibility.

I'm not vegan by the way but I try and make good choices, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't! I'm human.

Sparklesocks · 28/12/2017 23:20

Clearly quite an emotive subject for you Tippz but no need for rudeness here. My point was that surely any efforts to eat less meat, make efforts to be environmentally conscious are better than nothing? Maybe she’s trying, and occasionally slipping up? I just don’t see how publicly embarrassing people is beneficial for anyone. I think others feel the same way.

Wibblywobblyfoo · 28/12/2017 23:20

A woman I work with was complaining about the lack of vegan meal choices for our works night out and made a massive issue of being hard done by. Really complaining, being quite rude to the woman who was organising it all While eating an egg mayo sandwich which was part of her Sainsbury's meal deal...along with a bar of daily milk.
Mind you she also claims to have cealeacs (sp) which doesn't match up when she eats every baked good thay comes into work (as well as oremade sarnies)
Drives me mad as there are people at work who are vegetarian or vegan who don't make it an issue, it's a choice they make and they just get on.

DreamyMcDreamy · 28/12/2017 23:24

I see that could be annoying, but me personally I wouldn't have a problem with this. She is trying her hardest. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. It is hard and sometimes you need some flexibility.

Then surely you'd just say you'll have it black if ordering tea or coffee?!
You are NOT vegan if you fancy a bit of milk every now and again!
(This coming from someone who isn't vegan as I love me a bit of fish, the occasional sausage sarnie etc....)

puglife15 · 28/12/2017 23:27

Meh. Its hard being vegan. Sounds like her intentions are good.

That might be the only time she's eaten pork. Better to eat vegan 90% of the time than not at all.

If it was someone posting pics and memes about a low carb diet and you saw them eating chips would you be tempted to call them out? If not, what's the difference?

FruitCider · 28/12/2017 23:29

Ha. I'm WELL AWARE of how cows are inseminated, and how the dairy industry works thank you. pulls off long blue glove

It’s funny, because if that kind of behaviour was demonstrated by someone who was not a farmer, it would be called beastiality. Unless you are a vet? But insemination is normally done by farmers...

DorisDangleberry · 28/12/2017 23:31

You say she is a work colleague? Just leave a slice of crispy bacon on her desk every morning

DreamyMcDreamy · 28/12/2017 23:33

If it was someone posting pics and memes about a low carb diet and you saw them eating chips would you be tempted to call them out? If not, what's the difference?

Low carbing isn't about the animals and being kind.I know someone naming no names who is all "aw, poor chicken! Poor pig" if they see you eating one. Then the next time you see them they're chowing down on a sausage sandwich and still insisting they don't "really" eat meat in the next breath. Confused
Also why is your yummy turkey sandwich OK but a cute ickle piggy one isn't? Either you're against the meat eating or you're not.
You either are or you either aren't.

wherethevioletsgrow · 28/12/2017 23:34

I can't see how what she is doing is harming you. If she is publicly criticising you for food choices, fair enough, but if she is just trying to aspire to a particular life style but sometimes falling off the wagon, leave her alone. Many people have a very emotional and complex relationship with food. Would you call out someone posting diet meals but who has slip-ups and eats pizza? I hope not.

Northernlass99 · 28/12/2017 23:34

You are NOT vegan if you fancy a bit of milk every now and again!

True, yes. But why does it matter so much to other people. Why does it have to be 100% or nothing? And why does that annoy people so much? Why can't you be a "trying to be basically vegan most of the time".

Tippz · 28/12/2017 23:36

@sparklesocks

No I am not being rude, you are being over sensitive.

As a few posters have said, if you were a GENUINE vegan you would have the coffee black.

Saying people are 'Trying their best' and 'may slip up now and again,' is a cop-out, and is rubbish. You are not a vegan if you have milk, and eat biscuits and PORK!

Genuine vegans manage to be a vegan perfectly well. If you have milk and cheese and pork, do NOT call yourself a vegan and do NOT preach, and make out you are a vegan.

I can't believe I am actually having to explain it.

Lifechallenges · 28/12/2017 23:38

Hahah I know some one similar. Bangs on about being vegan on FB as I think she's trying to prove a point to,some one. Her partner however is a full,on steak eater and she feeds her kids (and mine) chicken nuggets on a regular basis

Sparklesocks · 28/12/2017 23:39

Wow Tippz you are clearly very angry about this! I tend not to let other people’s decisions and lifestyles affect me in such a way, but whatever brings you joy I guess!

Tippz · 28/12/2017 23:39

@Northenlass99

Have you not read ANY of the thread?

People get annoyed and pissed off, because these fake vegans preach and moan and have a go at people who eat cheese and drink milk and eat meat etc; then in secret, when they think no-one is looking, they eat this stuff themselves. THAT is what pisses people off and makes them angry, NOT the fact that they eat a dairylea fucking triangle now and again! Hmm

Tippz · 28/12/2017 23:41

Don't patronise me @sparklesocks Hmm I am quite entitled to voice an opinion without being spoken to like I am a child.

condepetie · 28/12/2017 23:41

If it was on her personal social media, facebook, IG, etc, I'd leave it.

If she was making comments about it on her mate's photo of a burger, then go for it.

Sparklesocks · 28/12/2017 23:42

Tippz - great, hope you’re having a lovely time Biscuit

Tippz · 28/12/2017 23:42

Don't talk down to me like I am a moron because i think differently to you dear.

DreamyMcDreamy · 28/12/2017 23:42

And why does that annoy people so much? Why can't you be a "trying to be basically vegan most of the time"

I do agree with you on some level.You're right, you can be a trying to be basically vegan all the time.
It's those who try to lay a guilt trip on you for eating meat then eat meat themselves the next time you're out and try to justify it that annoy me the most. Smile
Either say you're a vegan/vegetarian, and mean it. Or be a meat eater that is trying to eat less meat.You're not a veggie or a vegan though.

MammaTJ · 28/12/2017 23:43

I would take lots and lots of pics on the next night out, maybe just happening to capture her chowing down on a piece of pig or whatever, and make sure to tag her in it!

Northernlass99 · 28/12/2017 23:44

I guess some people are very strict and rigid in their definitions, and some are a bit more flexible.

A vegan eating pork is probably a bit too flexible though!!

LEMtheoriginal · 28/12/2017 23:44

I often share cruelty free things on Facebook. I'm not a Vegan. Nor a veggie.

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