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To call out my vegan friend?

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rubbishtalker · 28/12/2017 22:29

I haven't known her very long, a few years. She is a work colleague. She is 'vegan' on social media, lots of photos and hash tagging and "cruelty free" style comments.

But a few months ago when we went out for a team lunch she ate pork. I've seen her eat cheese, chocolate etc before.

AIBU to comment something along the lines of ' I love how you see vegan meals as a healthy aspect to your current diet'?? I am starting to find it irritating.

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Northernlass99 · 28/12/2017 22:52

I wouldn't call her out. Lots of people are trying to eat less meat and live in a more sustainable way. If that means vegan 90% of the time with a few slips thats OK by me. Being vegan is hard. I have heard the phrase 'flexitarian' used - which basically means nothing!! But I guess it is possible to move back and forward and have some flexibility.

I do think the radical hardcore anti-meat social media posts can put people off engaging with the whole debate.

Insomnibrat · 28/12/2017 22:53

Ha. I'm WELL AWARE of how cows are inseminated, and how the dairy industry works thank you. *pulls off long blue glove

blueyacht · 28/12/2017 22:54

@ReanimatedSGB

That's simply not true

Margaritaanyone89 · 28/12/2017 22:55

Maybe she's trying to cut down on animal products, supports the idea of veganism but is having difficulty making the transition? Leave her be, she doesn't need more judgement in her life.

I promote the idea of having less sugar but when nobodies around, I'll stuff my face with a box of chocolates. I'd hate to receive a snarky comment from my friend about it though.

Heratnumber7 · 28/12/2017 22:55

She kept posting ridiculous videos about how cows are 'raped' in order to support the milk industry

She has a point actually.

FoggieFishieCarpeDiem · 28/12/2017 22:55

She might be trying to be vegan (but fall off the wagon).

I’d love to try eating plant based but I honestly can’t.

ragged · 28/12/2017 22:57

I want to know what she says if you do call her out, OP.
You're the one who has to live with the aftermath!

DreamyMcDreamy · 28/12/2017 22:58

That said, I recently deleted someone on Facebook who kept banging on that dairy farming was rape.

What?! I'm interested to know the thinking behind that, please elaborate!
Confused

She is a work colleague. She is 'vegan' on social media, lots of photos and hash tagging and "cruelty free" style comments.But a few months ago when we went out for a team lunch she ate pork. I've seen her eat cheese, chocolate etc before.
See, that'd annoy me too! Nothing wrong with being vegetarian or vegan,but saying you are and then eating say a pork sandwich when out I'd have to innocently say something!
"Oh, are you eating meat again now?"

RecallRecall · 28/12/2017 23:01

Does she actively do anything to help animals? Take a real interest.Can she name loads of birds , British mammals etc? If so, cut her some slack.
If the only thing she does us own a cat ( which scares of or torments the wild small creatures) then yes, call her out.

DreamyMcDreamy · 28/12/2017 23:02

OK, just RTFT and seen the dairy farming explanation.

kmc1111 · 28/12/2017 23:02

Eh, so she's trying and failing. The social media stuff is probably an attempt to encourage herself and hold herself accountable.

Do you really need to confront someone over this? Just block her on social media if it bothers you that much.

HoHoHoHo · 28/12/2017 23:03

I'm pretty sure that if you trawled through most people's social media you would find out a few instances of hypocrisy...

DreamyMcDreamy · 28/12/2017 23:03

But there's BEING vegan, and there's PREACHING vegan....(then not following your own word). No one has a problem with anyone BEING vegan.

This.

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/12/2017 23:04

Someone I like very much is currently alternating #crueltyfree #livingtheveganlife and pictures of sushi she’s eating on social media. It doesn’t annoy me at all but it is a bit odd. As someone who finds pescatarians pretending they’re vegetarians to be rage inducing, a “vegan” who eats fish is a step into a parallel universe. Simpler to just say you don’t eat eggs or dairy but can inhale a platter of shrimp.

Sparklesocks · 28/12/2017 23:06

I think it’s a bit mean spirited to call her out publicly, I don’t know what you’d achieve apart from making her embarrassed and most likely upset. Really, if she’s mainly vegan and occasionally slips up, I don’t see why you feel the need to catch her out.

Tippz · 28/12/2017 23:07

@rubbishtalker

It is massively tempting to call these people out.

I am sick to death of people posting vegan propaganda on twitter and facebook, and bleating and preaching and making it part of their identity, and then going off and eating cheese, and cakes and so on made with eggs and milk. No, you are NOT a vegan mate.

Strangely GENUINE bona fide vegans barely mention it. It's just the ones trying to prove something on social media, and trying to look cool in front of their mates.

I'm afraid if someone claiming to be a vegan ate pork, I would be verrrry tempted to call her out!

There are 2 people close to me (both female) who I do adore, but they do irk me with the fake veganism. They admit (to me) that they are 'selective vegans' but all their mates think they are genuine.

In addition, one woman I work with claims to be a vegan, but when costa had no soy milk the other week, she said 'meh, the normal milk will do then....' I thought 'You are not really a vegan then are you luv?!' Hmm

Tinselistacky · 28/12/2017 23:08

Photo her eating the distasteful items and post on her social media.

BrutusMcDogface · 28/12/2017 23:08

I promote the idea of having less sugar but when nobodies around, I'll stuff my face with a box of chocolates

See, this annoys me. People preaching on social media about how we should all be eating less sugar, yada yada yada, and showing pictures of the amazing no added sugar brownies they've made with dried fruit and nuts and shit, but then troughing chocolate themselves. Hypocritical. Making people feel bad and guilty for eating chocolate but then eating it yourself. I have a few juice plus friends who are like this. Angry

I guess it's the same thing as your so called vegan friend, op, and I wouldn't be able to control my mouth if I saw her eating meat! I'd have to say, "oh? I thought you were vegan?" If that makes me a bitch then I apologise.

Rainbowmother · 28/12/2017 23:08

I would ask her next time she orders steak / cracks open a peperami what made her decide to stop being a vegan. All a bit odd

DreamyMcDreamy · 28/12/2017 23:08

Anne Is it definitely fish sushi though? As you can get vegetarian/vegan sushi boxes out there.
There's the binding seaweed, and then there's the rice with cucumber, carrot sticks etc for example and no sign of fish.

TatianaLarina · 28/12/2017 23:10

I’m not sure why some people on here are obsessed with ‘calling people out’, I would just take the piss out of her selective veganism until she shuts up.

DreamyMcDreamy · 28/12/2017 23:12

I’m not sure why some people on here are obsessed with ‘calling people out’, I would just take the piss out of her selective veganism until she shuts up.

Is that not the same as calling someone out? Taking the piss out of the selective veganism kind of sounds the same.....

MilesHuntsWig · 28/12/2017 23:12

Grrr preachy fake vegans. You’ll come across as the bad guy if you call her out on social media as others have said. I’d vote for the idea of calling her on it in person when she isn’t doing what she preaches.

SkyIsTooHigh · 28/12/2017 23:13

Meh. Yes it's a bit irritating but if she only manages to #crueltyfree 95% of the time, that's a hell of a lot better than most of us manage.

One thing I do find irritating is when you go on holiday with a vegan, cater vegan specially for her all week, then she has a bacon buttie on the last day. I think it's fair enough to call it out if you have personally gone to a lot of trouble to cater for her specially. But if the only impact on you is irritation at FB hypocrisy, leave her be.

Tippz · 28/12/2017 23:16

@sparklesocks

Really, if she’s mainly vegan and occasionally slips up, I don’t see why you feel the need to catch her out.

You couldn't make this shit up ^

You don't get to be 'mainly vegan' - you either are or you are not vegan... And you are not even MAINLY vegan if you eat pork!

As has been said, vegans - GENUINE vegans are fine; it's the fake vegans that piss people off, and the fake ones are always the ones who preach...

I just know the more someone bangs on about it, the more cheese and cows milk they have in their fridge...

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